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10/24/2012 10:40AM
The pictures in this post are of a different Northwoods than the one I posted photos of in the other post.
The photos in this post are of the canoe I am going to buy. I have a question though concerning the keel at the bow. It appears to be normal wear and tear, however, there definitely appears to be some wearing. I ask as I am far from being a composite expert. I paddle aluminum and have only had my solo kevlar for a year.
Does this look to be natural wear on a kevlight that is a couple years old?
Would this keel be left as is for a few more years or should it be covered? Would Keel Easy do the job or would it require something more?
Thanks again for all the input.
The photos in this post are of the canoe I am going to buy. I have a question though concerning the keel at the bow. It appears to be normal wear and tear, however, there definitely appears to be some wearing. I ask as I am far from being a composite expert. I paddle aluminum and have only had my solo kevlar for a year.
Does this look to be natural wear on a kevlight that is a couple years old?
Would this keel be left as is for a few more years or should it be covered? Would Keel Easy do the job or would it require something more?
Thanks again for all the input.
“What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.” Ralph Waldo Emerson...and...“Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".
10/24/2012 11:08AM
Wear on the bottom looks pretty normal to me after a few years of use.
IMO KeelEasy and similar products are to prevent damage/wear. In other words installed as close to new as possible.
Once wear occurs, I'd recommend a kevlar skid plate kit. Personally I install kevlar skid plate kits even on new canoes. Kevlar canoes, even used ones, are a huge investment.
Skid plates help to protect that investment. IMO they don't add much weight to the canoe and they don't detract from the appearance or performance if installed properly.
IMO KeelEasy and similar products are to prevent damage/wear. In other words installed as close to new as possible.
Once wear occurs, I'd recommend a kevlar skid plate kit. Personally I install kevlar skid plate kits even on new canoes. Kevlar canoes, even used ones, are a huge investment.
Skid plates help to protect that investment. IMO they don't add much weight to the canoe and they don't detract from the appearance or performance if installed properly.
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10/24/2012 11:42AM
I wouldn't worry about it. The felt you see is the integrated skid plate Bell started putting in at some point. Its nothing out of the ordinary at all. I don't think keel-easy would be a bad idea, but you could do nothing and be fine.
10/24/2012 12:56PM
Thank-you all. Your input is appreciated.
“What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.” Ralph Waldo Emerson...and...“Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".
10/24/2012 03:35PM
Here is a little history of Bell construction no need
While the scuff is unsigtly an application of the resin used originally would make it look neater and not add to drag. Whether the resin Bell used was polyester or vinylester, I regret, I don't remember
While the scuff is unsigtly an application of the resin used originally would make it look neater and not add to drag. Whether the resin Bell used was polyester or vinylester, I regret, I don't remember
10/24/2012 04:13PM
quote Ragged: "looks snooty, I'd pass ;)"
Damned snooty. Not as much as a SR though I must say. :0 ;) :)
Here's my snooty face ;/
Thanks for the link YC
“What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.” Ralph Waldo Emerson...and...“Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".
10/24/2012 07:00PM
It looks as though it needs nothing. Part of the reason that I love Bell canoes is because of their awesome glide. Doing anything will remove some of that glide. I'd wait until it really needs it, then use the thinnest and narrowest skid protection that you can get away with using.
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10/24/2012 08:57PM
My first thought was just go ahead and put the kev skid plate on, but after reading the others replies...maybe not? I don't know, I think I would go ahead and lay on the skid plate now. Can't hurt, right?
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10/24/2012 10:06PM
quote PortageKeeper: "It looks as though it needs nothing. Part of the reason that I love Bell canoes is because of their awesome glide. Doing anything will remove some of that glide. I'd wait until it really needs it, then use the thinnest and narrowest skid protection that you can get away with using."
I have actually seen pretty good results with electrical tape. When it starts to wear through just take the old off and put the new on.
10/25/2012 07:21AM
quote PortageKeeper: "It looks as though it needs nothing. Part of the reason that I love Bell canoes is because of their awesome glide. Doing anything will remove some of that glide. I'd wait until it really needs it, then use the thinnest and narrowest skid protection that you can get away with using."
Have to agree. I've had my Souris River 13 years now and still don't have a skid plate installed. Eventually I may need one, but still a few years off and I beat the heck out of it.
As Amhacker22 pointed out the skids plates are internal now, even if you see a little wear it isn't a big deal.
By the picture, it looks fine to me. I wouldn't touch it, it's Kevlar not glass :) It's a beautiful canoe why mess with it's aesthetics and possible glide for no reason?
T
10/25/2012 07:51AM
Thank-you to all for your knowledgeable input. It is greatly appreciated.
“What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.” Ralph Waldo Emerson...and...“Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".
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