whose got em, and how do you like em? looking forward to using them in may, i also got a pair of those liteweight biners on the same site. no more hh knot for this hanger, not that it was a big deal btw.

I use a whoopie interlocked with a brummel to make my ridgeline adjustable. Love that system. They are cool. I don't use them in my suspension though, I've stuck with SMC rings.

One reason for that is range. With SMC rings a 12ft cord will adjust from 1 ft (less gets hard) to 11 easily. With a whoopie you'd need 22 ft of cord for that range and that's a lot dangling around if you don't need it.

I've thought about making extensions to use along with a whoopie to get around that short coming but haven't bothered because I'm pretty happy with the rings and they weigh practically nothing.

I have them on my eno double nest. I forget how long they are but I know they're huge. Incredibly easy to adjust and readjust, light weight and strong. The one downside is what merganser said. You need much more material than standard straps and the extra dangles. I just tie my excess with a few slippery half hitches up the suspension and it's out of the way.

I was going to just make new thread about this, after I saw your woops post.

I bought a set from Oppie for my ENO doublenest. I took the heavy rope that attaches to the gathered end of the hammock and took off steel carabineers. I then looped the whoppie sling through the end of the hammock. I also have a structural ridgeline made from smaller amsteel whoppie sling to get the same lay no matter what the tree spacing is. I really like this stuff, so fast and easy and strong.

Even with a ridgeline you do still want to have your suspension lines at about a 30 deg angle. You will actually notice the difference if it's much less.

i just strung my hh up in the house for a sneek peek at the whoopies. i like em. seems to me with the 6 ft length of the whoopies i should be able to use my original hh straps on most site setups. i did buy the longer straps just to have other hang options. the quick connect biners will be great as well.

I usually tell people six feet. They get silly if they are much longer than that. I feel like it is more important to have long straps rather than long whoopies. I carry 8 ft straps and use Dutch buckles on my personal set up.

I try to get the 30 deg angle all the time. If the trees are spaced farther apart you will have to get the tree straps higher than you can reach. Here is where amsteel ridgeline comes in handy. The ridgeline will be as tight as a banjo string, normally you can bend the cord. Here is what I found about ridgelines...

There are two functions of a ridgeline. The primary one is to keep the ends of your hammock from being pulled too far apart. If, when you are in the hammock, the ridgeline is not sagging, it is doing that part of its job. Ideally you want it to be doing this job with as little tension as possible on it. That's where the "bend the ridgeline" instruction comes in. If it starts off taut but you can bend it, it has close to the minimum amount of tension on it but still be keeping those ends from being pulled apart.

The second function is to let you hang from trees that are so far apart that you cannot position the straps high enough to get the 30 degree angle to the hammock. In this case the ridgeline has a lot of tension on it, and for this case you need to have sturdy ridgeline, up to the strength of what you are using for the main suspension line. This is a good application for the so-called "Single Line Suspension" systems where one piece of suitable cord serves both as the main suspension line from tree to hammock, but also ridgeline between hammock ends.
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