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Savage Voyageur
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02/10/2012 09:46AM  
I have seen a lot of pictures of hammocks and see that about half of us are not using tree straps. When a plain rope is used it compresses the bark where the rope is injuring area preventing nutrients from traveling inside the tree. This will kill the tree. There are a lot of parks that have already banned hammocks because they are killing the trees. I would hate to have a hammock ban in the BWCA. We all need to get nylon or polyester tree straps to wrap around the trees then attach the suspension to the straps with a marlin spike.
 
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PortageKeeper
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02/10/2012 09:59AM  
Agreed, and I am guilty. The HH supplied straps are most often not the correct length, and I am in the process of designing a better, adjustable option. The supplied HH straps want to slip on trees of certain diameters.
 
02/10/2012 10:15AM  
Totally agree with this thread. I used the nylon web straps from some tie downs with cheap mechanisms. I think mine are each 10 footers, but they come in lengths, are cheap and provide a nice hook/loop for making adjustments. Guilty of rope for the tarp, but will use webbing in the future.
 
Craig K
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02/10/2012 11:07AM  
I purchased a set of the 72" tree Hugger straps when I bought my HH. Using a combination of the original and the extra ones it gives me enough strap length for just about any trees I have come across so far.

...yes please use some type of straps! I have seen people using a chain around a tree before in a park, not a good thing for the tree.
 
Savage Voyageur
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02/10/2012 11:24AM  
I am also guilty of using rope. I had no idea that it would damage trees until I went to a sleeping hammock. The ones they sell for a quick nap uses ropes. I have been using a tree huggers polyester straps for four years now.
 
Lymphocytosis
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02/10/2012 11:47AM  
Can't agree enough. I have a lot of customers ask me if the straps are necessary. "Oh, my son is only 150, that can't possible hurt the tree..." And I have to emphatically tell them, Yes! Use straps! The inner bark of trees is more fragile than you might think.

There are a couple of guys that I know who are VENDORS of hammock equipment who are such gram weenies they won't carry them. I find this frustrating that they are being poor examples. We have to be good stewards to the woods if we want to enjoy them.
 
RainGearRight
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02/10/2012 11:52AM  
quote Lymphocytosis: " We have to be good stewards to the woods if we want to enjoy them."


Agreed. I think the vendors could do a little better job as well. For a small price they could sell all hammocks with straps instead of rope.

I switched out my eno rope to whoopies after an afternoon of using the crap straps. My War Bonnet Black Bird came with cinch buckles and straps. I also need to start carrying an extra strap for the inevitable failure.
 
02/10/2012 12:02PM  
quote RainGearRight: "
quote Lymphocytosis: " We have to be good stewards to the woods if we want to enjoy them."



Agreed. I think the vendors could do a little better job as well. For a small price they could sell all hammocks with straps instead of rope.


I switched out my eno rope to whoopies after an afternoon of using the crap straps. My War Bonnet Black Bird came with cinch buckles and straps. I also need to start carrying an extra strap for the inevitable failure."


I have the WBBB too and those straps are SOOO nice. I don't know why anyone would prefer ropes to the straps. I can literally have the hammock hanging in less than 30 seconds and adjusted in not much more time than that.
 
bwcasolo
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02/10/2012 06:11PM  
i just redid my hh exployer with whoopies and new straps from same co.
i will carry both the hh straps and whoopie straps this may. never know what tree setup you will encounter.
 
OBX2Kayak
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02/10/2012 06:33PM  
Thanks for posting this, Savage. Straps are important.
 
02/10/2012 10:50PM  
I've always used the straps. Mine are polyester webbing I got from Ed spear. Less stretch than nylon if they get wet.
 
Savage Voyageur
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02/10/2012 11:04PM  
Another thing I just thought of was that I bought tree straps that were 10 feet long each. This way I can reach out to trees that are a little farther apart. No problem with doing this because I have a structural ridgeline that helps keep the same hang or lay no mater how far the trees are spaced apart. If I had shorter tree straps and farther apart trees I might be tempted to use a piece of rope.
 
02/11/2012 10:51AM  
My straps are 8ft and I only use the straps around the tree. I tie a marline spike hitch in the strap and use cord from there to the hammock. I have enough cord for anything approaching a reasonable hang.

I have two pair of straps and typically bring the extras. I've never needed them for range but I've actually had to string two of them together to get around a tree.
 
removedmember1
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02/11/2012 03:48PM  
I'm guilty too. When solo with my HH Exped I always use the straps. Last year I was tent camping and used a cheap hammock just to lounge. When I noticed the damage on a little cedar, it was too late.
 
PortageKeeper
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02/12/2012 02:38PM  
Just made my new straps today. About 5" longer than the originals, with loops @ 7" intervals. Now I won't have so many issues where the strap will go 1.5 times around the tree and then end there. They cost me nothing.
 
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