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Boundary Waters Quetico Forum BWCA Food and Recipes Dehydrating Hormel Dried Beef? |
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10/02/2021 05:36PM
This seems like such an easy thing to do I must be missing something. Caveat: I don't like spending time dehydrating food. Tried dehydrating hamburger once and decided not work the trouble, though it was a very successful batch of crumbles.
As far as I can tell, Hormel dried beef is cured and salted, ready to eat, but need to be refrigerated after opening the package. So if it's cured already, why not just soak to remove salt, then dehydrate it? It's cured right? But not smoked, flavored or thick like jerky. Thin sliced and should be minimal effort to dehydrate? Or is there dehydrated sliced beef already available?
As far as I can tell, Hormel dried beef is cured and salted, ready to eat, but need to be refrigerated after opening the package. So if it's cured already, why not just soak to remove salt, then dehydrate it? It's cured right? But not smoked, flavored or thick like jerky. Thin sliced and should be minimal effort to dehydrate? Or is there dehydrated sliced beef already available?
Time in the woods leaves no time for carving and drawing. Carving and drawing leaves no time for getting lost in the woods. I really need to retire.
10/02/2021 08:46PM
bobbernumber3: "Take it as it is. Soak out the salt at camp and use as beef. Does that work?"
Except for 2 things: I'm selfish about dumping water: prefer to ingest (for lack of a better word) all the water I haul to camp. (except soapy washing water. Yuck.) Of a lesser concern is the rare times I'm out in weather that stays above 60 deg and the meat should be refrigerated.)
Otherwise, yep, stellar idea. Least amount of effort. Big plus for that.
Time in the woods leaves no time for carving and drawing. Carving and drawing leaves no time for getting lost in the woods. I really need to retire.
10/02/2021 08:52PM
billconner: "sounds like more work than ground beef. :)"
Almost. I'm thinking I don't have to cook it or remove any grease that might go rancid. I did that with the hamburger and was more work than I wanted.
Who knows, might change my mind about that too.
Time in the woods leaves no time for carving and drawing. Carving and drawing leaves no time for getting lost in the woods. I really need to retire.
10/03/2021 07:24AM
GeneH: "billconner: "sounds like more work than ground beef. :)"
Almost. I'm thinking I don't have to cook it or remove any grease that might go rancid. I did that with the hamburger and was more work than I wanted.
Who knows, might change my mind about that too."
I buy 90 or 95% lean and just drained and a little squeeze and into dehydrator. Doesn't seem like much effort. Seems easier than soaking at camp but for sure ymmv.
10/03/2021 08:23AM
How do you intend to use the washed, dehydrated, rehydrated dried beef? Have you tried a recipe with the final product at home? The beef is so thin, I can't imagine any remaining texture, body, or flavor once you finally put it into a recipe and cook it again.
10/03/2021 06:36PM
Piece of cake. I rinse the salt off under running water, throw it on the dehydrator, and it turns into beef chips that look and crunch like potato chips. Crunch them up, then pack. Works great in biscuits and gravy, creamed chipped beef, etc. I haven’t ever tried using it to replace ground beef in tacos or spaghetti sauce. But the drying is easy.
10/04/2021 07:43AM
Hockhocking: "Piece of cake. I rinse the salt off under running water, throw it on the dehydrator, and it turns into beef chips that look and crunch like potato chips. Crunch them up, then pack. Works great in biscuits and gravy, creamed chipped beef, etc. I haven’t ever tried using it to replace ground beef in tacos or spaghetti sauce. But the drying is easy."
Great answer to the OP question by someone who has done this.
Gotta love this board!
10/04/2021 12:46PM
Northwoodsman: "Skip all the hassle and unknowns and just purchase freeze-dried beef. You will have a top notch product that is like the real thing."
Do you have a favored brand that I can go lookup reviews and such?
The 2 or 3 that I checked didn't have great reviews. The one that I do remember the name is Thrive Life ground beef, and that has 16 grams fat in a 36 gram serving. The reviews I did scan indicated a pretty bland, cardboard flavor. One was actually pretty amusing, at least to me.
Time in the woods leaves no time for carving and drawing. Carving and drawing leaves no time for getting lost in the woods. I really need to retire.
10/04/2021 12:50PM
bobbernumber3: "Hockhocking: "Piece of cake. I rinse the salt off under running water......the drying is easy."
Great answer to the OP question by someone who has done this.
Gotta love this board! "
Agreed!
Time in the woods leaves no time for carving and drawing. Carving and drawing leaves no time for getting lost in the woods. I really need to retire.
10/04/2021 01:17PM
billconner: I buy 90 or 95% lean and just drained and a little squeeze and into dehydrator. Doesn't seem like much effort. Seems easier than soaking at camp but for sure ymmv."
Bill, what's your process? Fry it up, squeeze most of the grease out onto paper towels, and dehydrate in a low-temp countertop air dryer?
I might have carried the process a little further than needed: Really worked to get all the grease out, and if I remember correctly I rinsed it after that to get even more grease out. Then put it in the oven. I really wanted to make sure the hamburger didn't go rancid on me in 70 deg or higher weather for a few days, as well as having a 6 month freezer-bound shelf life.
Time in the woods leaves no time for carving and drawing. Carving and drawing leaves no time for getting lost in the woods. I really need to retire.
10/04/2021 01:43PM
As others have stated, brown the meat as normal in a skillet or pan. Drain the fat. Right away rinse the cooked meat with very hot water to remove any remaining fat particulates. Then dehydrate.
How much water will it take to rehydrate it? Weigh the meat before you dry it and after you dry it. This difference in weight is how many ounces of water you will need to add back in.
Here is a link to some shelf stable and freeze dried meat products. Excellent quality.
Packit Gourmet Shelf Stable Meat
How much water will it take to rehydrate it? Weigh the meat before you dry it and after you dry it. This difference in weight is how many ounces of water you will need to add back in.
Here is a link to some shelf stable and freeze dried meat products. Excellent quality.
Packit Gourmet Shelf Stable Meat
10/04/2021 02:26PM
Thanks Northwoodsman for the dehydrating info - good to know I'm on the right track, and for the link to Packit Gourmet. Now I remember why I tried hamburger crumbles myself: $$$$.
Time in the woods leaves no time for carving and drawing. Carving and drawing leaves no time for getting lost in the woods. I really need to retire.
10/04/2021 02:30PM
I've enough info now and think I'll stick to trying TVP for packing light and just carry frozen cooked hamburger or chopped beef when I'm dragging a sled in the snow, or take a steak on short distance weekend trips. If if find flavored TVP just doesn't cut it, I'll probably dry out thinly sliced cooked beef or extra lean hamburger.
Thanks everyone!
Thanks everyone!
Time in the woods leaves no time for carving and drawing. Carving and drawing leaves no time for getting lost in the woods. I really need to retire.
10/04/2021 06:16PM
GeneH: "bobbernumber3: "Take it as it is. Soak out the salt at camp and use as beef. Does that work?"
Except for 2 things: I'm selfish about dumping water: prefer to ingest (for lack of a better word) all the water I haul to camp. (except soapy washing water. Yuck.) Of a lesser concern is the rare times I'm out in weather that stays above 60 deg and the meat should be refrigerated.)
Otherwise, yep, stellar idea. Least amount of effort. Big plus for that."
Use the principle of evaporative cooling if it's not humid. Take your beef ,wrap it in a damp terry towel and then put in a small soft side cooler. The water will evaporate from the towel and keep the meat cool. We keep meat and cheese this way up to two weeks in Wabakimi. In forest fire areas we had temps way above 100. Bare rock reflects lots of heat.
The same principle used to be used in swamp coolers to cool homes before AC became widespread
This won't work in Louisiana but ought to in the BW
10/04/2021 06:40PM
I used fry pan on top and pyrex in oven - not sure it matters - drain in a SS strainer, dump onto parchment lined dehydrator tray, and go till it's like grape nuts. I have blotted it with paper towel but it doesn't even seem to collect grease. I keep in freezer till day before trip and when I open it, it seems dry and not greasy at all. Preferably 95% lean.
Works for me. YMMV
Works for me. YMMV
10/05/2021 07:55AM
yellowcanoe:
Use the principle of evaporative cooling if it's not humid. Take your beef ,wrap it in a damp terry towel and then put in a small soft side cooler.....
Hey that's what I do to cool beer faster in the refrigerator! Thanks! Hadn't considered it for food storage.
Time in the woods leaves no time for carving and drawing. Carving and drawing leaves no time for getting lost in the woods. I really need to retire.
10/05/2021 08:46AM
Thank you Bill.
I've a lot of clear info and confirmation in this thread about getting meat prepped. Also good, critical questions I had to think about.
Winning.
I've a lot of clear info and confirmation in this thread about getting meat prepped. Also good, critical questions I had to think about.
Winning.
Time in the woods leaves no time for carving and drawing. Carving and drawing leaves no time for getting lost in the woods. I really need to retire.
10/21/2021 08:13AM
When I dry ground beef I add a 1/2 cup of bread crumbs to a pound of meat. The bread crumbs absorb water and the ground beef is tender instead of being gravel when rehydrated. Check out Backpacker Glen’s site. Haven’t figured out how to add a link on my IPad.
Carl
Carl
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