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12/21/2016 07:18PM
Anyone try this tent before?
Looking to rent from Piragus this winter....
Looks like a PITA to put up, but then ROCK SOLID after that. (providing your sleep system is in check...)
Looking to rent from Piragus this winter....
Looks like a PITA to put up, but then ROCK SOLID after that. (providing your sleep system is in check...)
“The Wilderness holds answers to more questions than we have yet learned to ask.” - Nancy Newhall
12/22/2016 08:37PM
Not sure why you are so insistent on sleeping in a tent if your sleep system is sound. Why not just pitch a tarp? Or, if you are cold camping, why any type of shelter at all? It is not needed!
Not sure what your sleep system consists of, but I have been comfortable cold camping in the BWCA with the following without ever being in a tent. Closed cell foam pad (Therm-a-rest Ridge Rest Solar) as a base, ExPed Down Mat on top of the closed cell, 1-2 sleeping bags on top of the pads (Wiggy's Ultima Thule will suffice for one bag, for two, many options) all encased in a Gore Tex bivvy. Have slept in minus 20 in the above comfortably with no need for a tent.
Not sure what your sleep system consists of, but I have been comfortable cold camping in the BWCA with the following without ever being in a tent. Closed cell foam pad (Therm-a-rest Ridge Rest Solar) as a base, ExPed Down Mat on top of the closed cell, 1-2 sleeping bags on top of the pads (Wiggy's Ultima Thule will suffice for one bag, for two, many options) all encased in a Gore Tex bivvy. Have slept in minus 20 in the above comfortably with no need for a tent.
"The future ain't what it used to be" Yogi Berra
12/22/2016 09:36PM
quote Frenchy19: "Not sure why you are so insistent on sleeping in a tent if your sleep system is sound.
.... all encased in a Gore Tex bivvy. "
Because we do not have bivvy saks.
“The Wilderness holds answers to more questions than we have yet learned to ask.” - Nancy Newhall
12/23/2016 08:10AM
First thought is the single wall design will collect a layer of frozen condensation overnite, double wall tents will also but the inner usually stays dry.
It is a very conventional 4 season design, Mountain Hardwear EV3 , and 2 wall designs North Face VE25, Mountain Hardwear Trango3
Bivy sack and tarp can work well, until the wind picks up and you get covered with blown snow. My winter tenting has mostly been done in a Lean1+, Walrus Hurricane Hole. and a Eureka geo-dome I modified with heavier aluminum frame. I feel most 4 season tents are somewhat crippled in 3 season use due to weight, pack size, entry/exit restrictions, including the Moki. Probably the worst place for a drop down door is winter camping.
Right now listed on Ebay are used, VE25, Moss Thunderdome, Hilleberg Nallo, Walrus Apogee. But at cost involved renting/borrowing may be better.
butthead
It is a very conventional 4 season design, Mountain Hardwear EV3 , and 2 wall designs North Face VE25, Mountain Hardwear Trango3
Bivy sack and tarp can work well, until the wind picks up and you get covered with blown snow. My winter tenting has mostly been done in a Lean1+, Walrus Hurricane Hole. and a Eureka geo-dome I modified with heavier aluminum frame. I feel most 4 season tents are somewhat crippled in 3 season use due to weight, pack size, entry/exit restrictions, including the Moki. Probably the worst place for a drop down door is winter camping.
Right now listed on Ebay are used, VE25, Moss Thunderdome, Hilleberg Nallo, Walrus Apogee. But at cost involved renting/borrowing may be better.
butthead
"never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups" George Carlin
12/23/2016 08:25AM
No, but have had good luck with NEMO tents and found them to be very high quality. I've had 1-2 NEMO tents in our gear for years. This one DOES look a bit more difficult to put up than some, but easier than some of the tents we used decades ago! And renting is the perfect way to see if it's really what you want; and if you DON'T like it, you'll still have an excellent shelter for your winter camping trip.
Here's another link that shows the erection. Merry Christmas!
NEMO Moki
Here's another link that shows the erection. Merry Christmas!
NEMO Moki
"Let us live so that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry." Mark Twain
12/23/2016 10:46AM
I watched that video, & then another one which was more detailed...the versatility looks fantastic, lots of ways to open up the tent for ventilation & visibility, without having to get out and attach a rainfly if the weather gets bad. Looks like a really nice tent!
"Enjoy every sandwich"
12/25/2016 09:16PM
well - eff it - I think we're going to try it.
The folks at Piragus say its a PITA to put up... in the cold cold... but once its up - its SOLID. I'll give ya my report once we've tested it out.
worse case - we're renting it v.s. buying it.
The folks at Piragus say its a PITA to put up... in the cold cold... but once its up - its SOLID. I'll give ya my report once we've tested it out.
worse case - we're renting it v.s. buying it.
“The Wilderness holds answers to more questions than we have yet learned to ask.” - Nancy Newhall
12/26/2016 11:27AM
quote MNLindsey80: "quote Frenchy19: "Not sure why you are so insistent on sleeping in a tent if your sleep system is sound.
.... all encased in a Gore Tex bivvy. "
Because we do not have bivvy saks."
Use a tarp and you will not need a bivvy sack-nor a tent!
"The future ain't what it used to be" Yogi Berra
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