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Boundary Waters Quetico Forum Gear Forum CCS tarp....oops, my bad |
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06/21/2014 09:23AM
So I had my tarp all set up, nice and tight with a good angle to shed any rain. Then I find a stick in the woods behind camp that someone obviously spent some time on to use as a tarp pole. Well my current set up isn't made for the pole but I shove it under thinking "why not".
Well that night we get a fair amount of wind and a lot of rain and I step out to find this....
I've owned several fish tanks, that was at least 10 gallons (80lbs) of water in there! Note the dry gear underneath :) Lesson learned, set up your tarp correctly and don't modify it unless you modify all the corrections necessary. The seams in the middle around the pole were stretched pretty bad and obviously the sealer was torn. I thought it was done for but after getting it home and drying/cleaning it it has some how regained it's original shape! I'll need to re-seal it but I think it may live to see another trip!
Well that night we get a fair amount of wind and a lot of rain and I step out to find this....
I've owned several fish tanks, that was at least 10 gallons (80lbs) of water in there! Note the dry gear underneath :) Lesson learned, set up your tarp correctly and don't modify it unless you modify all the corrections necessary. The seams in the middle around the pole were stretched pretty bad and obviously the sealer was torn. I thought it was done for but after getting it home and drying/cleaning it it has some how regained it's original shape! I'll need to re-seal it but I think it may live to see another trip!
06/21/2014 10:06AM
It always looks so good on paper...
I'm not a big fan of using those large tarps because things like that can happen more easily than if using two square tarps instead.
Next time try tying the line to just the corners (as the back four) instead of lacing through all the loops. At night, tip two opposing corners down toward the ground. It works for me.
I'm not a big fan of using those large tarps because things like that can happen more easily than if using two square tarps instead.
Next time try tying the line to just the corners (as the back four) instead of lacing through all the loops. At night, tip two opposing corners down toward the ground. It works for me.
“The more you know, the less you carry” Mors Kochanski
06/21/2014 05:05PM
I also use a ridgeline about 95% of the time, and leave about 50' of cord on all the time. I don't run the line through either of the end loops tho. I attach them with a prussic knot like shown here.
There are times that I still use a center pole and I have a tennis ball that I cut an "X" into to allow for the pole. It goes into my rope bag and also has a hole opposite the "X" from when I used to hang my food pack. Made it easy to throw over a tree branch.
Use Dan's instructions for using the quad loop , and stake it to the ground.
There are times that I still use a center pole and I have a tennis ball that I cut an "X" into to allow for the pole. It goes into my rope bag and also has a hole opposite the "X" from when I used to hang my food pack. Made it easy to throw over a tree branch.
Use Dan's instructions for using the quad loop , and stake it to the ground.
KevinL
06/21/2014 05:33PM
You need to send Dan Cooke a copy of those pictures and thank him for the good quality workmanship he does on his products. Any other tarp and it would have probably ripped out.
"Rivers know this: there is no hurry. We shall get there someday.” ~A.A. Milne
06/22/2014 11:24AM
quote Savage Voyageur: "quote old_salt: "At least you didn't have to walk all the way down to the lake to get water..."
Good point, free water, oh wait bird poop. "
That's why we bring our water filters....
Do what you can, with what you have, where you are -- Teddy Roosevelt
06/22/2014 08:20PM
I have had the same thing happen with the center pole blowing out from the wind. Wouldn't the ridgeline option require 6 perfectly located trees? Unless you anchor two corners to ground stakes, wouldn't you need two trees in the middle for a ridgeline, and four other trees for each corner? I can never seem to find the perfect tree configuration for a ridgline set up. I even attended Dan Cooke's seminar on tarp set up and I'm still a train wreck. Any good tips or how to videos out there?
06/22/2014 10:54PM
quote butthead: "That is why I suspend tarps from overhead or a good ridgeline.
Not rely on a center pole. And set it up to drain well.
butthead"
Great setup!
What size tarp is that?
Also, your tent confuses me, it looks very similar to a scarp 1, but is branded as a mountain hard wear.
-George
06/23/2014 07:41AM
Tarp is 10x12 CCS 1.1, tent is Mountain Hardwear Wing no longer made. Also have a lighter Mountain Hardwear Stiletto both used from ebay.
BnD, never been in Scouting, self taught personal style of camping.
butthead
BnD, never been in Scouting, self taught personal style of camping.
butthead
"never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups" George Carlin
06/23/2014 07:46AM
quote George5000: "quote butthead: "That is why I suspend tarps from overhead or a good ridgeline.
Not rely on a center pole. And set it up to drain well.
butthead"
Great setup!
What size tarp is that?
Also, your tent confuses me, it looks very similar to a scarp 1, but is branded as a mountain hard wear."
+1
Looks like it should be in better homes and gardens!
For a quart of ale is a dish for a king - Shakespeare 'A Winters Tale'
08/07/2014 12:33PM
quote DuluthPak: "I have had the same thing happen with the center pole blowing out from the wind. Wouldn't the ridgeline option require 6 perfectly located trees? Unless you anchor two corners to ground stakes, wouldn't you need two trees in the middle for a ridgeline, and four other trees for each corner? I can never seem to find the perfect tree configuration for a ridgline set up. I even attended Dan Cooke's seminar on tarp set up and I'm still a train wreck. Any good tips or how to videos out there?"
Be creative and use what is at hand, like rocks, roots, stumps, and small bushes or trees. I also recommend getting some small thin stakes that will fit in between the cracks of the large rocks. I got some when up in Ely this Spring. They are a thin metal square wire type stack that has a twist or corkscrew to the shaft of the stake. We used a couple up in Quetico in some places normal tent stakes just would not go into as they were too large.
"Rivers know this: there is no hurry. We shall get there someday.” ~A.A. Milne
08/10/2014 09:23AM
Thanks Butthead for your photo. I have wondering what CCS size to get, you helped me make up my mind. Just ordered one and looking forward to using it in late Sept / Oct in the BWCA with my Son, two solo canoes. Going to be a great time,
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