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03/14/2011 04:40PM  
A few months ago, I bought a canoe that both I and the sellers thought was an early Minnesota II (The model had been unreadable in the outdoors light). The canoe is of an older construction and has a center-rib. I did some internet research and came up with a picture of an Odyssey that looked very close in appearance to my canoe. I did a gunwale width measurement and found it to be closer to what an Odyssey should be than to a MN 2. When I googled "Wenonah Odyssey" I found a reference to it being a descendant of the Whitewater X. The letter "X" got my attention because I thought I had been able to make out an X on the metal ID strip. I went out into the garage with my glasses and turned on one of the garage lights. It turned out that the light was shining at the perfect angle and I made out the model name "Whitewater X."
So, I have a Whitewater X. One reference on The Internet said that the Whitewater X had been renamed the Odyssey and another said that the Whitewater X was the common ancestor of both the Odyssey and the Minnesota II. Are either of those statements true? Did the Whitewater X have the bow flare of the Odyssey? How about the years of production?
There is next to no information about my canoe on The Internet. So, thank you if you can add to my knowledge about it.

 
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DanCooke
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03/14/2011 07:04PM  
I am not a historian but I owned a WhitewaterII for 25 years and made canoe covers for 5 or 6 of them. It was my first canoe that I owned, I bought mine from Betty Ketter in 1975. They were down river racing canoes. the bow was always knife edge all the way to the gunnel. The Large flare on the bow was the Oddesey, it started above the waterline and was very pronounced at the gunnel.

My understanding is the Odessy and MNII own lines to the Whitewater heritage.
 
03/14/2011 08:56PM  
My understanding is the whitewater X predates the odyssey, if I remember the odyssey has more flare in the hull (the bow cap is actually blunt) and less rise in the stern. The center rib was the preferred construction for whitewater as it allows the boat to flex more than the foam core. I'm not sure but I think the whitewater X came after the whitewater II

The Minnesota II and the Whitewater II are virtually identical. The Whitewater II was more popular flat water tripping hull than it was as a "downriver racing hull" (whatever that is), it briefly went out of production and emerged again (at the request of outfitters especially Piragis) as the Minnesota II.

Nice boat by the way.
 
03/14/2011 10:56PM  
Curious - what is it made out of?
 
03/15/2011 01:53AM  
@ nojobro: It's kevlar. It has tractor seats (front one sliding) and a highly carved wood yoke.
I haven't checked the weight yet but it "feels" like about 60 lbs.
 
03/15/2011 02:33AM  
@ Banksiana: I found a similar statement (that the Whitewater X came after the Whitewater II) on The Internet that supports your suspicion.
 
03/15/2011 11:45AM  
I also owned a Whitewater II, bought from Better Ketter in about 1979. I have since owned several Mn2s, and I can certainly see the similarity...I usually say the Whitewater is the grandfather to the Mn2, but I don't know what would be the father in that family tree.

The Whitewater had a very high bow and a very low stern, whereas the Mn2 has a bit lower bow and a bit higher stern. The Whitewater had a very sharp entry line and turned an almost right angle to the bottom --hardly any rocker at all, maybe none. Faster than hell straight ahead, but didn't want to turn. You had to know a bow rudder or a bow draw stroke to yank it around stream bends.
 
03/15/2011 06:46PM  
I've emailed Wenonah and I'll share any info they provide me.
 
03/18/2011 04:07PM  
Wenonah responded and were very helpful. I must thank them. Not only did they send me info on the Whitewater X, but also the Odyssey and the MN II so that I could compare and contrast them.
The literature (that which was about the Odyssey) mentioned that the Odyssey was the direct descendant of the Whitewater II, for those of you who have owned one or the other.

Here is the info on the Whitewater X for anyone who might have some curiosity on the subject. It turned out that my "feels like 60 lbs" comment turned out to be exactly right.

I think it is interesting that, in their literature of the day, Wenonah contrasted their own canoes with those of similar models of other brands.
 
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