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C Berry
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02/03/2011 03:05PM  
I want to know how it would be to carry a small 1.2 hp Evinrude and use it on the big lakes that allow motors. Is it ok to have it on the other lakes as long as I don't run the motor? Please give me your ideas to if it would be worth doing. Thanks.
 
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Savage Voyageur
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02/03/2011 03:59PM  
Im not sure about having it with and not running it, sounds like a lot of work to have it on the canoe or in the canoe.
I have read that some hide their motors in the woods until they return. This practice is not allowed in the BWCA.
 
02/03/2011 04:11PM  
if you use it on a motorized BWCA lake you would still need a motor permit, regardless of your motor size. what or which lakes are you traveling?
 
02/03/2011 04:22PM  
You can not have a motor on non-mptor lakes even if it is not run.

I am not positive on this, but I believe you can stash a motor (or portage wheels) back in the woods if it is associated with that particular trip. What you can not do is sort of stash it for the season.
 
Savage Voyageur
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02/03/2011 05:41PM  
quote Bannock: "You can not have a motor on non-mptor lakes even if it is not run.


I am not positive on this, but I believe you can stash a motor (or portage wheels) back in the woods if it is associated with that particular trip. What you can not do is sort of stash it for the season.
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Do you know where to find this rule, I would like to see it. I was told that you cannot leave stuff in the woods unattended.
 
02/03/2011 05:46PM  
this is from recreation.gov (BWCAW regulations section)....

•Only watercraft and equipment used in connection with your current visit may be stored and left unattended.
•All equipment and personal property must be carried out with you at the end of each trip.

(thats news to me also SV)
 
02/03/2011 09:24PM  
quote mocha: "if you use it on a motorized BWCA lake you would still need a motor permit, regardless of your motor size. what or which lakes are you traveling?"


I agree, the permitting would be the problem since I doubt you can go into a paddle only area with a motor permit even if you were just paddling. It would just increase permitting problems. Just my opinion.
 
Savage Voyageur
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02/03/2011 09:26PM  
Thanks for the info, I was not aware of this.
 
02/04/2011 02:26AM  
quote Savage Voyageur: "
quote Bannock: "You can not have a motor on non-mptor lakes even if it is not run.



I am not positive on this, but I believe you can stash a motor (or portage wheels) back in the woods if it is associated with that particular trip. What you can not do is sort of stash it for the season.
"





Do you know where to find this rule, I would like to see it. I was told that you cannot leave stuff in the woods unattended. "


Here you go.
STORING WATERCRAFT
Only watercraft and equipment used in connection with your
current visit may be stored and left unattended, until you leave
the BWCAW.
All equipment and personal property must be carried out with
you at the end of you trip.

MOTOR-POWERED WATERCRAFT
Motorized watercraft meeting specific horsepower limitations are
allowed on designated routes and lakes only. NO other motorized
or mechanical equipment (including pontoon boats, sailboats,
ATV’S, sailboards, etc) is allowed.
Motors may not be used or in possession on any paddle-only
lake.
Portage wheels or mechanical assistance are only permitted over
the following areas: International Boundary, Four-Mile Portage,
Fall-Newton-Pipestone and Back Bay Portages into Basswood
Lake, Prairie Portage, and Vermilion-Trout Lake Portage.
-
All of the above are enforceable United States Forest Service
regulations.-
Remember to Leave No

tony
 
PortageKeeper
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02/04/2011 04:39AM  
quote nctry: "
quote mocha: "if you use it on a motorized BWCA lake you would still need a motor permit, regardless of your motor size. what or which lakes are you traveling?"



I agree, the permitting would be the problem since I doubt you can go into a paddle only area with a motor permit even if you were just paddling. It would just increase permitting problems. Just my opinion."


They send you in on a motor permit. That's how they've permitted me going in from Loon.
 
02/04/2011 07:38AM  
If you get the right permit, use it until you cannot anymore, then carefully stash it in the woods until you come back. Make sure you know where it is, thou, can be tricky to find if not careful.
 
02/04/2011 09:51AM  
I ran into a couple with a small outboard once on the Fall-Newton portage. It was a really neat motor, it kind of looked like the motor you see in the Piragis catalog. For all the extra weight of the motor and fuel slowing them down and all the additional portaging they had to do, I think if I left from Fall Lake paddling at the same time he left with all that, that I would have beat him to Basswood.

JD
 
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