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07/07/2006 01:22PM
I use a good quality poly rope 5/16" in diameter and at least 50 feet long for hanging packs. I usually have 2 or 3 coils of this rope. Some prefer nylon, I prefer poly as long as it is a good quality poly.
For tarps you can get by with a lighter weight, high tensile strength parachute cord I have about 25 feet tied off on grommets in corners and bring along quite a bit more for use as needed on tents or tarp.
For tarps you can get by with a lighter weight, high tensile strength parachute cord I have about 25 feet tied off on grommets in corners and bring along quite a bit more for use as needed on tents or tarp.
"When a man is part of his canoe, he is part of all that canoes have ever known." Sigurd F. Olson WWJD
07/07/2006 01:25PM
I bring 50' roll of parachute cord about 1/8 of an inch diameter (relatively lightweight) for hanging food. I don't do the tarp thing, but if you are crafty you can get a little rope to go a long way. Occaisionally when I have needed rope I just cut a length off of the 50' cord. 30' is usually plenty for hanging food.
07/07/2006 01:42PM
I take 2 50 - ft lengths of 5/16 rope (to stretch between trees each with a chain link attachment on one end), 1 - 50 ft length of 1/4 inch rope (with a caribiner attached) to pull food pack up with , and 4 - 100 ft lengths of parachute cord for the tarp and clothes line. I also carry several shorter lengths of parachute cord for various things such as holding the leech tamer etc... A man can not have too much rope or parachute cord!!
Bruce
Bruce
Good Paddling, Great Fishing, and God Bless All...
07/07/2006 02:14PM
You could build a suspension bridge if you get bored, Arkansas Man!
So there you have it:
Presto - 50'
Arkansas Man - 550+'
Once again, it all gets down to what you are comfortable with and what you want to carry with you. I'm sure what Arkansas man does works for him, yet I am comfortable with what I have. If I brought what A.M. did, I'd be cursing the extra weight and bulk; if A.M. brought my 50', he'd wish he had brought 500' more. So true with almost any gear - give it a try somewhere in the middle, and perhaps next time you will have your own opinion on the subject.
So there you have it:
Presto - 50'
Arkansas Man - 550+'
Once again, it all gets down to what you are comfortable with and what you want to carry with you. I'm sure what Arkansas man does works for him, yet I am comfortable with what I have. If I brought what A.M. did, I'd be cursing the extra weight and bulk; if A.M. brought my 50', he'd wish he had brought 500' more. So true with almost any gear - give it a try somewhere in the middle, and perhaps next time you will have your own opinion on the subject.
07/07/2006 02:30PM
A lot depends on whether you hang your food pack... no hanging 150 ft less of rope. No tarp... a lot less parachute cord. I bring the extra parachute cord because many of the campsites do not have tree just where I want them... I used all but 1 100 ft roll of parachute cord this last trip to keep the tarp tied down and I was glad I had it when the wind came up as it did and I had to pull up a log to tie the back of the tarp to, to keep it from being blown away... BTW the total weight of the ropes including links is less than 2 pounds... Strong lightweight rope as Bog said is the key... That is what makes this a great board... the ability of each to state their opinion... I am comfortable with what I use, and always have plenty if I need it... even for an anchor bag ;-)
Bruce
Bruce
Good Paddling, Great Fishing, and God Bless All...
07/07/2006 03:10PM
The painters on my canoe are 25' long and are 3/8". I don't know what material - the yellow rope that floats. They are permanently attched to the canoe so are not removed for other purposes. I use them to tie up my canoe every night and for lining.
I don't hang my food pack.
My other rope is the very small diameter nylon cord - like venician blind cord. I have a cord bag. Most of the cord is cut to between 10' and 25'. The cord is either pink or white. The other colors can be too hard to see. I use this cord for stringing tarps and clothes lines. That's about all I need it for.
I don't hang my food pack.
My other rope is the very small diameter nylon cord - like venician blind cord. I have a cord bag. Most of the cord is cut to between 10' and 25'. The cord is either pink or white. The other colors can be too hard to see. I use this cord for stringing tarps and clothes lines. That's about all I need it for.
Bannock
07/07/2006 04:50PM
I don't hang my food either, never have in 35 years of canoe camping. I have yet to have a bear problem. I use a bear barrel...perhaps I should call it a mouse/chipmunk barrel, because those are the only critters that have been an issue.
As far as ropes go, I bring about 100' of parachute cord and about 50' of heavier nylon rope, and a wide assortment of bungee cords. The whole shootin' match goes in the side pocket of my kitchen pack.
As far as ropes go, I bring about 100' of parachute cord and about 50' of heavier nylon rope, and a wide assortment of bungee cords. The whole shootin' match goes in the side pocket of my kitchen pack.
~On to Fort Chipewyan before the snow flies!
07/10/2006 10:08AM
I do both (hang or hide) depending on the group size.
Smaller groups or shorter trips I use a bear barrel. At night I hide it under a rock or log off the beaten path (not that it is necessary to hide or sure why I do this-habit I guess). I often travel with others who also have barrels so we split the food up amongst us and just hide multiple barrels.
In church youth trips we hang if we find a suitable tree, but we don't go out of our way to find one. If we can't find one within a short period of time, we hide the food pack with an alarm system (again not sure why, as I am not sure if I heard the alarm how hard I would chase after the bear) hopefully the alarm will scare the bear off if he/she hears all the clanking and noise when they try to steal our food.
I have taken lots of trips and have no bear problems to date. I think the bigger concern is keeping food odors to a minimum by keeping a clean camp, sealing food well and keeping it all in a couple of tightly wrapped waterproof and sniff proof bags. By keeping food odors to a minimum you hopefully will never see a bear either.
Smaller groups or shorter trips I use a bear barrel. At night I hide it under a rock or log off the beaten path (not that it is necessary to hide or sure why I do this-habit I guess). I often travel with others who also have barrels so we split the food up amongst us and just hide multiple barrels.
In church youth trips we hang if we find a suitable tree, but we don't go out of our way to find one. If we can't find one within a short period of time, we hide the food pack with an alarm system (again not sure why, as I am not sure if I heard the alarm how hard I would chase after the bear) hopefully the alarm will scare the bear off if he/she hears all the clanking and noise when they try to steal our food.
I have taken lots of trips and have no bear problems to date. I think the bigger concern is keeping food odors to a minimum by keeping a clean camp, sealing food well and keeping it all in a couple of tightly wrapped waterproof and sniff proof bags. By keeping food odors to a minimum you hopefully will never see a bear either.
"When a man is part of his canoe, he is part of all that canoes have ever known." Sigurd F. Olson WWJD
07/30/2006 09:04AM
DP See Hanging vs. Barrel in Gear Forum and you will get a good idea. You can also search for bear barrel on line and find a mfg.
Wow rope is to bear barrel what’s next?
As for rope; how about looking at it from what you need it for, I have hear so far.... Hanging food (optional), Tarp, to Line you canoe, Tying down canoe at night, cloths line & painters Anything else I have missed.
Wow rope is to bear barrel what’s next?
As for rope; how about looking at it from what you need it for, I have hear so far.... Hanging food (optional), Tarp, to Line you canoe, Tying down canoe at night, cloths line & painters Anything else I have missed.
07/30/2006 10:36AM
I just use 2 types. 1 thicker 3/8 to 1/2 inch diameter more comfortable to handle. 2 pieces 30 ft. as canoe painter lines. these can be removed and used as needed. Everything else, tarp lines, clotheslines, hanging food, lanyards, etc, is made from 1/8 in. para cord. I start the season out with 200 ft. of cord divided into 25 ft. sections, then cut off shorter chunks as my camp requires.
I have enough para chord to string an elaborate tarp, hang food, and still do some "macrame" if I want to. The heavy line almost never comes off the canoe.
butthead
I have enough para chord to string an elaborate tarp, hang food, and still do some "macrame" if I want to. The heavy line almost never comes off the canoe.
butthead
"never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups" George Carlin
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