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01/12/2012 09:32PM
Hello, I'm making my first trip up to the BWCA in late May with a few guys that have been there before. I'm an avid fly fisherman and will be using my fly rod as much as possible..I'm going to bring a spinning rod but plan on throwing popping bugs, wiggle minnows, and a few choice streamers on the fly rod...Is a fast 5 wt rod too small for this area? I have no problem casting 50-60 feet but wondered if the fish will be too much for a 5 wt?
Thanks for the advice, excited to fish in this part of the country!
Thanks for the advice, excited to fish in this part of the country!
01/13/2012 07:15AM
quote dmunger: "Hello, I'm making my first trip up to the BWCA in late May with a few guys that have been there before. I'm an avid fly fisherman and will be using my fly rod as much as possible..I'm going to bring a spinning rod but plan on throwing popping bugs, wiggle minnows, and a few choice streamers on the fly rod...Is a fast 5 wt rod too small for this area? I have no problem casting 50-60 feet but wondered if the fish will be too much for a 5 wt?If you have some small surface mouse patterns also bring them, the big smallies eat lemmings all the time up there.p.s. I bring a 8weight 9 foot rod when im flyfishing up there because I like to fish for big pike as well as smallies .
Thanks for the advice, excited to fish in this part of the country!"
" I want to know Gods thoughts , The rest are details " Albert Einstein. WWJD
01/13/2012 07:22AM
Whatever you throw (hardly matters...the fish are agressive, at times, and will hit many different presentations with a fly rod) , you'll end up with northern pike on the line. Lots of fun. The five wt could be a bit undersized with a large northern. Who cares if you lose that fish? Have fun with the rod you want to throw.
01/13/2012 09:18AM
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01/13/2012 10:23AM
Moosetrack offers some great advice and I know he is one helluva guide!
I would recommend a minimium of a 7 wt. as well, especially if you are going to be throwing some big bass bugs. Plus, there is always the chance of a 20"+ smallie or a big northern!
Any idea what lakes you are going to?
I would recommend a minimium of a 7 wt. as well, especially if you are going to be throwing some big bass bugs. Plus, there is always the chance of a 20"+ smallie or a big northern!
Any idea what lakes you are going to?
01/13/2012 10:23AM
Moosetrack offers some great advice and I know he is one helluva guide!
I would recommend a minimium of a 7 wt. as well, especially if you are going to be throwing some big bass bugs. Plus, there is always the chance of a 20"+ smallie or a big northern!
Any idea what lakes you are going to?
I would recommend a minimium of a 7 wt. as well, especially if you are going to be throwing some big bass bugs. Plus, there is always the chance of a 20"+ smallie or a big northern!
Any idea what lakes you are going to?
01/13/2012 01:28PM
quote dmunger: "Thanks for the info guys..Moosetracks, what email can i reach you at??"
Click on the small envelope under view profile and he will get it.
I will be bring a 9 foot three piece 7 weight rod this year for bass and pike.
"So many lakes, so little time." WWJD
01/13/2012 03:52PM
A 5 weight is too light.
Casting while sitting in a canoe is a disadvantage. Then add wind, casting across your body, trying to paddle a little while you are fishing, etc. and you will regret a 5 wt.
Also, i suspect that the casting distance with a 5 wt is with flies typically used with a 5 weight rather than big deer hair poppers of Clouser's. I love to play smallies, but you will kill too many of them trying to drag them up with a 5 weight.
I think you could get by with a 6 wt if you were truly expert at casting and wanted to go ultralight and not fish for pike. I use an 8 weight which works well for casting big flies and catching even the kargest pike.
For fishing in May, you might need to go deeper as well. I would take a spool of intermediate (or sink tip) so again a stouter rod helps with that. A 5 wt is a bit light for trolling a big pike fly as well.
Casting while sitting in a canoe is a disadvantage. Then add wind, casting across your body, trying to paddle a little while you are fishing, etc. and you will regret a 5 wt.
Also, i suspect that the casting distance with a 5 wt is with flies typically used with a 5 weight rather than big deer hair poppers of Clouser's. I love to play smallies, but you will kill too many of them trying to drag them up with a 5 weight.
I think you could get by with a 6 wt if you were truly expert at casting and wanted to go ultralight and not fish for pike. I use an 8 weight which works well for casting big flies and catching even the kargest pike.
For fishing in May, you might need to go deeper as well. I would take a spool of intermediate (or sink tip) so again a stouter rod helps with that. A 5 wt is a bit light for trolling a big pike fly as well.
01/14/2012 11:59AM
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01/15/2012 07:54PM
I agree with Jerold on this one, a 5wt is too light. Especially IF you are only taking one fly rod. A 5 and a 7 wt or 8wt would be a good combo if you can bring two fly rods. When I hit Algonquin Park in May, I bring a 5wt and 7wt. Mind you, I'm only fishing for brookies and lakers there. If I'm fishing a lake for lakers/walleyes/pike/smallies, I use a 7wt and 8 wt most often.
Also as already mentioned, dealing with wind often determines the rod choice, adding in bigger flies/wind resistance, and a heavier rod makes sense. But also depends on what flies you like to use. When they are hitting, almost anything will work, and a 5 will handle lots of patterns likes damsel and dragonfly nymphs, small deceivers etc. A 7wt or 8wt is also nice as you'll also end up trolling your fly a lot, which you will find very effective. All around, if you are only going to bring one rod, for smallies, pike, walleyes and lakers, and to toss any pattern, my vote would be an 8wt.
Moonman.
Also as already mentioned, dealing with wind often determines the rod choice, adding in bigger flies/wind resistance, and a heavier rod makes sense. But also depends on what flies you like to use. When they are hitting, almost anything will work, and a 5 will handle lots of patterns likes damsel and dragonfly nymphs, small deceivers etc. A 7wt or 8wt is also nice as you'll also end up trolling your fly a lot, which you will find very effective. All around, if you are only going to bring one rod, for smallies, pike, walleyes and lakers, and to toss any pattern, my vote would be an 8wt.
Moonman.
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