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bruceye
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07/13/2011 10:40PM  
How many year's have you made BW/Q trips? (approximate)

How many trips total? (approximate)

From the beginning until now, would you say that you pack in more or less gear?

Please limit your answers to either yes/no/more/less.
 
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07/13/2011 11:21PM  
"How many year's have you made BW/Q trips? (approximate)
-No

How many trips total? (approximate)
-More

From the beginning until now, would you say that you pack in more or less gear?
-Yes
Please limit your answers to either yes/no/more/less."


about 10 years, about 15 trips, same volume of gear.
 
Basspro69
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07/13/2011 11:33PM  
20 Plus, Alot, and less Gear but not much less.
 
FullGo
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07/13/2011 11:36PM  
10
16
less
 
Dbldppr1250
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07/13/2011 11:52PM  
How many year's have you made BW/Q trips? (approximate)
9

How many trips total? (approximate)
11

From the beginning until now, would you say that you pack in more or less gear?
less
 
07/14/2011 12:07AM  
25
About 14 actual
Much less
 
analyzer
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07/14/2011 12:58AM  
38,39, depends whether we are base camping or portaging. With base camping I'd say about the same or slightly more, with portaging I'd say less.
 
07/14/2011 09:13AM  
16
5 (six if you count a day trip)
About the same...I started going with experienced trippers and we already had good gear.
 
07/14/2011 09:32AM  
How many years have you made BW/Q trips?
2

How many trips total?
4, after Monday

From the beginning until now, would you say that you pack in more or less gear?
Less

Croixboy
 
07/14/2011 09:36AM  
quote Chilly: ""How many year's have you made BW/Q trips? (approximate)
-No


How many trips total? (approximate)
-More


From the beginning until now, would you say that you pack in more or less gear?
-Yes
Please limit your answers to either yes/no/more/less."



about 10 years, about 15 trips, same volume of gear."


Observant and funny!!!

10 years, 35ish trips, less gear
 
QueticoMike
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07/14/2011 09:38AM  
23 years
50 plus, can't keep track anymore :)
Probably take more stuff now.
 
airmorse
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07/14/2011 09:43AM  
18 years
17 trips (missed one year because of damn work)
much less gear
 
07/14/2011 09:44AM  
11 years
11 trips
same amount but different stuff

Oops! I gave a multiple word answer. Sorry!
 
07/14/2011 09:45AM  
8 years
@15
definently less gear.
 
07/14/2011 09:48AM  
16 years

18 trips

Less Gear
 
07/14/2011 10:27AM  
~10 years, 6 trips, less (and lighter) gear, clothing, food
 
07/14/2011 10:44AM  
37 years, about 150 trips (BW & Q), Less and lighter gear.

Are you going to summarize, total, average, and post the results?
 
07/14/2011 10:47AM  
12 years, 15 trips?, When base camping we pack more volume but about the same weight. When moving everyday we pack much less.
 
07/14/2011 10:51AM  
40
25 (27 if you count planned trips this year)
more
 
cheesewiz
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07/14/2011 11:02AM  
25 years
15 trips
less but more expensive gear
 
07/14/2011 11:03AM  
38 Years
26 Trips
More gear but lighter and ALOT more expensive.
 
PaddleIN
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07/14/2011 11:08AM  
6
6
More
 
Savage Voyageur
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07/14/2011 01:20PM  
32
35
Less
 
solotrek
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07/14/2011 01:20PM  

27 years

13 trips

less
 
07/14/2011 01:41PM  
16 years
17? trips (some skipped years around kids, some double years)
less stuff and lighter stuff
 
The Lorax
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07/14/2011 02:50PM  
7 years

6 total trips and another on the way this Sept.

Less stuff and lighter stuff. I'm used to traveling light.
 
07/14/2011 02:57PM  
26 years

40 to 50 trips also have lost track

I don't know if I'm much lighter but I know my equipment has become much more expensive. I also still have the canoe from my 1st trip but it's retired from BWCA trips, the 85 pounds on my shoulders would have retired me.
 
MrBreeze
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07/14/2011 03:00PM  
34 years
25 trips (canoe/hiking)
Less
 
07/14/2011 03:39PM  
12 years
18 trips
pack less weight
 
emptynest56
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07/14/2011 03:54PM  
28
45or so, but not enough yet
less(brought a 2 burner coleman stove on first two trips)
 
07/14/2011 04:14PM  
5
5
much less
 
07/14/2011 04:23PM  
26 years
61 trips (exactly)
I pack lighter every year
 
Big Tent
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07/14/2011 04:36PM  
30
50+
same
Mostly base camp.
 
07/14/2011 04:38PM  
And the Survey Says...................

How many year's have you made BW/Q trips? 3 Years

How many trips total? 3 Total

From the beginning until now, would you say that you pack in more or less gear? LESS

SunCatcher
 
07/14/2011 04:39PM  
about 27 years.
near 40 trips.
much less and lighter.
 
07/14/2011 05:42PM  
7 years
8 trips
less

vinnie
 
OBX2Kayak
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07/14/2011 07:14PM  
48 years
more than 30 trips (lost count)
less gear (way, way less)
 
07/14/2011 08:21PM  
32 Years. Over 50 trips. Less clothing, better food, more fishing gear, better rain gear.
 
bruceye
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07/15/2011 07:33AM  
quote Kevlar: "37 years, about 150 trips (BW & Q), Less and lighter gear.


Are you going to summarize, total, average, and post the results? "


Yes Kevlar:

As for myself - 25 yrs, 30 to 40 trips and much less.

And out of a panel of 37 entries, survey says;

27 less - 4 more - 3 same - 3 inconclusive.

Thanks all. I thought this might be of some help to the newbies.
 
07/15/2011 07:58AM  
This was a very interesting thread, bruceye. I was a bit surprised to find that we are so much in the minority to be taking "more". And I looked at it again, but can't change my answer, so I guess it may be one reason that we are having trouble portaging now in our advanced years. :-)

On our first trip in 1971 we had three packs. We still have three packs. The difference is that now we have two folding camp stools tied to one of the packs in deference to our advancing years (with my arthritis I have to have something to sit on when I cook at the fire, as bending over has become too painful and squatting well-nigh impossible, and then Spartan1 discovered that sometimes the rocks and logs weren't in the right place for his sitting either--ha!)

And instead of a little camera I now take a big bag of photo equipment and he carries a carbon-fiber tripod for me. Not gonna give that up!

Now I have to figure out how to make the three packs lighter, as I don't see any way to get everything down to two packs! But we are, in the second half of our sixties now, making our TRIPS lighter but I guess our gear is going to stay about the same. Sigh.

I think the gear we take is lighter in some cases. The nylon tent (2011) is certainly lighter than the canvas one (1971). But we didn't take a tarp then. It seems like as we lightened up in one area we added a creature comfort in another. As the sleeping bag got lighter, we added a pad. As we got rid of the Coleman stove, we added the folding chairs. And so it goes.

I hadn't figured in the canoe, though. Going from the Grumman to the Northwind pared off a few pounds. Does that count??

Maybe if you count that, I'd have to change my answer to "less" after all.

Sorry for over-thinking all of this. It was a great thread and I think you got your answers. ;-)
 
QueticoMike
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07/15/2011 08:09AM  
quote arctic: "32 Years. Over 50 trips. Less clothing, better food, more fishing gear, better rain gear."


Amen to the better rain gear part. After a few soakers up there I was sitting underneath a flipped over canoe shivering because the rain was seeping through my jacket and I was shivering. Right then I would have given a thousand dollars for a gortex jacket. The first thing I did when I got home was to buy the best gortex jacket in the Cabela's catalog.
 
eagle93
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07/15/2011 08:17AM  
years - 15

trips 50+

gear - more but better and lighter
 
chris77mcgrath
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07/15/2011 09:40AM  
YEAR 5
Trips 2
Less gear always lighter
 
07/16/2011 09:24AM  
Years - 5

Trips - 7

Gear - Starting to become less
 
Basspro69
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07/16/2011 01:02PM  
P.S. If you would have seen what I took on my first trip to the bdub it would be really hard to not bring less, as a matter fact the stuff we had for four guys, I could do a trip with 8 people and take less stuff, I mean we had a metal cooler that kept Ice for 5 days.
 
bruceye
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07/16/2011 02:54PM  
quote Basspro69: "P.S. If you would have seen what I took on my first trip to the bdub it would be really hard to not bring less, as a matter fact the stuff we had for four guys, I could do a trip with 8 people and take less stuff, I mean we had a metal cooler that kept Ice for 5 days."


Same here BP!
 
alpinebrule
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07/16/2011 08:04PM  
35 years, 50+ trips, same amount
 
07/18/2011 07:21AM  
1st trip - 1978
7th trip - 2010
we pack less gear and the new gear is much lighter
 
07/18/2011 07:59AM  
1. 35
2. ~30
3. I pack a lot more stuff
 
07/18/2011 08:14AM  
1. 35 years
2. ~30
3. In general more but lighter.
 
07/19/2011 05:13PM  
quote bruceye: "
quote Basspro69: "P.S. If you would have seen what I took on my first trip to the bdub it would be really hard to not bring less, as a matter fact the stuff we had for four guys, I could do a trip with 8 people and take less stuff, I mean we had a metal cooler that kept Ice for 5 days."



Same here BP!"


me too

4
5
a lot less
 
07/19/2011 06:34PM  
31/30+/less
 
Jackfish
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07/19/2011 07:34PM  
25 years

About 25 trips (+/-)

Definitely less gear.
 
Grandma L
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07/19/2011 08:53PM  
Years - a long time
Trips - lost count -
Gear - too much - cutting down again
 
Craig K
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07/19/2011 10:49PM  
6 years
7 trips, number 8 in 2 weeks
Less
 
07/20/2011 09:09AM  
About 17 years
21 trips that I've been able to remember, maybe a few more
A little less gear, but not much less
 
07/20/2011 09:24AM  
8 years (not counting a few trips when I was young)
11 trips (not counting a few trips when I was young)
Less gear.
 
07/20/2011 09:31AM  
7 years
10 trips (12 and 13 in August and September)
Less - never feels like it though
 
07/20/2011 01:50PM  
6 years, 7 trips, depends on the trip but definitely less than the first two trips I was on.
 
bassnut
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07/20/2011 02:50PM  
28 yrs., 50plus trips, less gear
 
Scrubb
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07/20/2011 03:22PM  
17 years
about 30 or so trips
Less
 
shadypaddler
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07/20/2011 06:46PM  
7
13
more, except this coming weekend.
 
Woods Walker
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07/20/2011 07:09PM  
"How many year's have you made BW/Q trips? 12

How many trips total? 32

From the beginning until now, would you say that you pack in more or less gear? Less for sure
 
bruceye
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07/20/2011 07:24PM  
And the survey continues to grow magnanimously to the favor of,, Less.

Keep'm coming folks. As I said earlier, this is a thread that should help the newbies decide what to pack and what to leave behind.
 
07/20/2011 11:13PM  
41 years tripping. easily over 80 trips in bw, more than a dozen trips on northern canada rivers. countless trips on wisconsin and minnesota rivers. longest trip 45 days. i bring very little stuff. but my canoe is heavy. no
 
ubbenholdthekraut
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07/20/2011 11:57PM  
19 yrs.
20 trips
Less gear
 
07/21/2011 06:54PM  
5
5
same (first trips with avid bwca-ers)
 
analyzer
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07/21/2011 10:47PM  
quote Basspro69: "P.S. If you would have seen what I took on my first trip to the bdub it would be really hard to not bring less, as a matter fact the stuff we had for four guys, I could do a trip with 8 people and take less stuff, I mean we had a metal cooler that kept Ice for 5 days."



umm, some of us are still bringing the cooler that keeps ice for 5 days.
 
07/22/2011 09:42AM  
25

25

less

butthead

PS: hard to limit "Please limit your answers to either yes/no/more/less." bh
 
shoreviewswede
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07/22/2011 11:12AM  
7, 5, less.
 
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