Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Gear Forum :: Canoe recommendation for 1st solo trip
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boonie |
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sconnie84 |
I am down to these 4 options (Northstar Magic is not available)... Wenonah Prism Wenonah Basswood Solo Northstar Solo Northstar Rob Roy I want a canoe that is stable and won't be too big of a risk of tipping if I hit some wind. I I will be taking on 15+ portages for this trip (most are not on big water. EP 37 going through the Louse River). I do a lot of walleye fishing and also do some northern & bass fishing. Any recommendations would be appreciated. If there are any on this list you would recommend against, that would be helpful as well. Additionally, if you have any tips for a 1st time solo trip I am all ears! |
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quark2222 |
I've always felt safe from dumping while on the water if the gear weight is proportioned properly so the canoe doesn't "weathervane". I've used both a regular paddle and a yak paddle. Prefer the yak myself, but they both work well. Bring a spare single blade paddle for sure. Glad I did, when I snapped my yak paddle during the klutz attack mentioned above. I use Strap Its or Bungee Dealy Bobs to secure the spare paddle in the canoe for easy emergency access. Also said - If the waves are high, I don't get out on the water. Better to be late going home than early being dead. Tom |
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Speckled |
Rob Roy with a double blade will be the fastest and most stable. Alot of the stability comes from the low seating position. The disadvantage is space for packs. Pretty much limited to a hiking style pack, which is what i do and it kind of sits upright behind me. A buddy once tried a bunch of waterproof sealline bags and then a duluth #4 pack and packed and re-packed at each portage. It was efficient enough i suppose. Limited to double portage as the boat interferes with the pack too much. This is my favorite solo for tripping with any kind of distance. Northwind Solo and Prism - To me these felt very similar in stability and speed. It really boils down to if you're more comfortable in tractor style seat or webbed platform seat. I like the seat in the northwind better as it allows for a little more shifting if your pack isn't quite centered or moves during a paddle. Nothing to add for the basswood - it's a fat boat. The northwind solo and prism are plenty stable. |
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plmn |
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GeneH |
quark2222: "... Only dumped twice. ...The other was a simple tripping on the gunwale when leaving a campsite due a klutz attack. LOL. I hate when that happens. Especially when someone is watching. Good info in this whole thread. |
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bobbernumber3 |
sconnie84: "I will be attempting my 1st solo trip to the BWCA this year..." No attempting. Completing, paddling, doing, making, etc. Planning and preparing are okay as well. |
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Z4K |
YardstickAngler and BWPaddler make a very good point, if you've never paddled one of these solo boats you really should test them them out before you go. I own a Prism but wish it was a Northwind Solo with a bench seat and wooden gunnels... the aluminum gunwales Northstar uses are incredibly loud but that is a very fast hull. They both feel much more stable to me when loaded with 300 total pounds or a bit more. I've got a couple hundred miles solo under my belt now and I am still uncomfortable in either of them without extra weight/in anything but glassy conditions. I like to spend all day fishing from the canoe with my gear so it works out. I am a bigger guy that packs heavier, if your total tripping weight is significantly lighter I recommend you look at the Wenonah Wilderness or a Wenonah Basswood Solo. I believe Sawbill has a couple Wilderness' and Sawtooth has a couple Basswoods. I have a feeling you'd prefer the Wilderness. Great route! Don't miss Mug Lake Falls, and be sure to hook into one of those big Wine lake lakers. Where are you in WI? I'm out of Tomahawk, send me an email if you'd like to test paddle my Prism sometime |
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billconner |
(Rented a Souris River Tranquility, later bought one. Very stable and pretty fast for me. ) |
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JD |
I'm 5'10" and a bit over 200lbs, and brought 45-50lbs of gear+food, plus a 20lb day pack, and a 12lb camera pack. Total payload was likely right around 300lbs. The NW Solo paddled like a dream. I had no problem hitting 3mph with a single blade without even really trying. At the same time, I didn't feel unstable at all. I have somewhat short legs for my height so getting out at deep/small landings can be tricky, but I had no anxiety with this boat. My only complaint is that it's so light that it gets blown around pretty good in the wind when fishing and photographing without the main gear pack, but that's not really this boat's fault. Even if you had a shallower boat lower to the water, at 27-30lbs, you're gonna get blown around. It made it tricky to get straight-on photos of the canoe pointing at an interesting feature, and also made it tricky at times to maintain my orientation to shore when trying to cast and retrieve baits. But again, that's just a general canoe problem, that this canoe doesn't magically solve. I liked it so much (and enjoyed the solo experience so much) that I looked to purchase a used NW Solo. I failed to acquire one during the times I attempted to, but a brand new, gorgeous ruby red NW Solo w/ wood trim recently found its way into my line of sight, and after several days I couldn't let it go. I pick it up on Monday. :) I'll be taking it on a weeklong solo in June. I can wholeheartedly recommend the NW Solo, but if you're 140lbs with 40lbs of gear, a smaller boat like the Trillium (same hull design but smaller) might be more for you. |
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timf1981 |
I took it on a 4 day trip after trying it for ten minutes a few days before my solo trip. I figured i would get use to the sketchiness. I never did. I never let myself remove my butt from the seat unless it was to get out. Andi have done a lot of paddling. I am 6' 2" and a bit of a belly. Maybe my center of gravity was a little high. At the Cache bay ranger station on my way in after about 45 minutes of paddling . Some paddlers ask me how i liked the prism. I said i would trade it right now for my 20' 3" WENONAH MINNESOTA 3. That i have taken on 5 trips before. I very nearly tipped at the ranger station dock 4 days later on my way out. The expert a Piragis outfitters said it would be pretty fast and stable enough for fishing. It was pretty quick...second choice was the voyaguer. I purchased a damaged Minn2 that i will make into a solo canoe. 100% get yourself a kayak paddle. My first trip i used my cheap heavy kayak paddle for the first two hours. Then tried my lightweight expensive carbon fiber paddle. Stroke stroke stroke switch and repeat. After a minute of that i went right back to the cheap heavy kayak paddle. I have since upgraded to a top of the line Werener kayak paddle. No more energy sucking and momentum killing J-stroke |
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BWPaddler |
I had paddled OT Discos and Coleman plastic boats solo before, as well as short and fat Royalex boats like Wenonah Heron. Tried a beautiful Prism and dumped just getting in at a landing, and also tried a different solo (small and very lightweight - Kestrel I think) and felt like any moment I would be swimming. So - to each his or her own, but I love tripping solo with the (64lb) Heron and paddle backwards from the bow, with all gear up front. It works for me, but I spent some years doing that with a child in the front, so maybe I acclimated to it. I'm also not in a race. I'd love to practice with a prettier and lighter solo boat, but meanwhile... |
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YardstickAngler |
It’s detailed in my trip report a bit, but I initially rented the Prism, and had major controllability and stability issues into a steady but not crazy headwind on Sawbill. Portaged that canoe right back to the outfitter and swapped for a Wenonah Wilderness. Flatter bottom, far more stable, and shorter which was better for the winding river sections, especially the Frederick and Kelso River I was very, very happy I chose to go with the more stable boat, and am happily doing so again for this year’s trip (Frost River). If I paddled more regularly, perhaps I’d think differently. But for my skill level, I’m quite happy to sacrifice some speed to get into a boat that is easier for me to handle. |
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