Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Group Forum: Solo Tripping :: Age
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Bearpath9 |
merlyn: " As a teenager my Dad organized and led our BW trips. Work, school, marriage and kids took up my twenties and early thirties. Mid thirties thru fifties I organized and led (poorly) our rare, five only BW trips. I was in my mid sixties when I took my first solo BW trip, I hadn't planned a solo trip but it was either solo or don't go. Now I'm in my seventies and going on my eighth(?) BW solo. My story is kind of the same. Went on a couple with the scouts, one more just before I got married, then marriage, kids, house and kind of settled for car camping. Managed to get my oldest grandson to go for a couple of trips, then his life got busy. Three years ago, with no partner, I decided I would go by myself at the age of 62. I'm 64 now and I don't think I would want a partner. And again, for the same reasons merlyn said. I still get the same objection-that I am too old. No, merlyn, it doesn't sound stupid. I feel the most of the same things. Except the fat old man part. Despite my wife being a very good cook, I still weigh about what I did in my twenties. You are only as old as you feel. And I have plans for next year, and the year after. |
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GraniteCliffs |
I am so thankful and appreciative of multiple trips each year. For many decades until I retired I wondered: Did I love canoeing because of the escape from the rat race that many of you have described? Or did I simply become addicted to the woods and water? The kids grew up, I retired and the rat race glided to a near stop. And then I got my answer. I did love getting away from the rat race. But more importantly I realized I was indeed simply addicted to the woods and water. Sitting at night by the shore listening to sounds and watching the sky come alive. Paddling silently along the shore alone just looking, listening and smelling. Sitting around a campfire with friends or family that I love. Crawling into the tent to sleep at night tired and totally at peace. Yep, I love just being a part of it all. Paddle On! |
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TomT |
GraniteCliffs: "I did love getting away from the rat race. Well said! I’m wondering if there will be a return to natural places in response to the craziness of the modern world. Some people believe AI will provide virtual experiences that are safer and easier to manage. I hope I’m not around for “The Falls Chain AI Experience”. Maybe, just maybe people will gravitate back to the wilderness areas and we will see many more young people on the trails and message boards. |
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TomT |
straighthairedcurly: "TomT, what specific supplements have worked best for you. I am always interested in what others have tested out and what improvements they have experienced to their health." Usana has a multivitamin called the Cellsentials. It’s two different supplements and I take 2 of each every 12 hours. So 7:00 am and then pm. With these I take a fish oil capsule and glucosamine tablets. Usana calls these Procosa. Their fish oil is called Biomega. Very high quality stuff. My sister in law is a distributor and I can hook people up with her for more info. They ship every month or every 2 months. I learned I can save the $10 shipping by getting 2 months of product every other month. I’ve had great results. Haven’t had a serious cold since 2014. I feel great with no joint pain. I’m 63 so that’s pretty good. |
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Bearpath9 |
P.S. I did get the job, and got assigned (so far) to maintenance and upkeep. Get to be outdoors, and keep the parks clean and work on the trails. Absolutely love it. It doesn't even seem like work. |
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jdddl8 |
Over the years I have had nearly every bad event happen to me except being unable to continue. But far offsetting all of the bad events are my love of the place: whether it is the solitude, the vegetation, the wildlife, the beautiful lakes or the sense of fulfillment by managing to stay healthy and enjoying your sense of self. It is by far my favorite place on earth. |
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bhouse46 |
On my first solo I was paddling a 14'6" plastic kayak and tripped to Kawnippi up the Man chain. I was napping on one of the rocks in the Fall's chain, water levels were low, and when I woke up an emerging dragon fly was about two inches in front of my face. I have always carried an affinity with dragon flies and once the shock wore off I realized what was happening. Serenity comes in many forms. Good memories are great friends and it is wise to collect them. |
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jillpine |
Boonie and others on this forum were instrumental in providing the encouragement and footing to head out on my own. Since 2019, I have taken more solo trips than I can count, none longer than 10 days, and none worthy of youtube-level influencing, but they have made all the difference to me. The effect of age was very much part of it. Fifteen years ago, I would not have left my two young sons to go take a trip by myself. I brought them with me - sometimes together, and sometimes just one of them with me. Looking back on it, those trips were much trickier and riskier than going it alone. I didn't realize it at the time. I just went. No Garmin, no Kevlar, no Gortex, and all the food was homemade in the dehydrator. As I approach the decade of my sixties, I see many years of being alone in the backcountry ahead of me. Gear is lighter, schedule is more flexible, and the pocketbook is not quite as squeaky when opening. I am grateful to the visionaries before me who saw value in preserving these areas of wilderness, and I try now to be part of that cohort for the generations that follow me. Emphasis on "try". |
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merlyn |
This discussion has made me think about why I still do this at almost 73: I love to plan the trips. I like my own company. I love the wilderness. I like having no one else depending on me and( This last one is hard to explain but here goes)--- I'm confronting my mortality, defying my age, celebrating my independence, proclaiming my strength, exerting my will. Sounds stupid when I write it down but when I solo there is no pretense just me. I only look like a fat old man. , |
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Minnesotian |
TuscaroraBorealis: "A quote from Blaise Pascal really sums this up and I have personally found it to be true. "All of humanity's problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone." There are a couple of quotes I write down on the first page of all my journals when I get them: "When one finally arrives at the point where schedules are forgotten and becomes immersed in ancient rhythms, one begins to live." - Sigrud Olson "I have never found the companion that was so companionable as solitude" - Thoreau "The moment one definitely commits oneself, then Providence moves too " - Goethe Each one of those quotes are a reminder of a past experience where I discovered the meaning behind the quotes and now serve as a reminder of how to daily move forward. |
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TomT |
I did my first BWCA solo when I was 24. In my 50's I wanted more companionship so did a couple trips where I met up with other solos on a predetermined lake and day to spend a few nights before going our separate ways. I call this type of trip a Hybrid Solo. It's my favorite way to go now. It satisfies that solo "doing what I want, when I want" freedom but also gives companionship part of the time, which is really great too. I've done 10 night solo's and frankly, after day 7 or 8 I'm wishing for someone to talk with. |
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YetiJedi |
merlyn: "This discussion has made me think about why I still do this at almost 73: Merlyn, You sound inspirational to me. Truly appreciate your perspective and what you continue to accomplish. I'll feel extremely blessed if I'm still doing this when I'm 73. May you have your best trippin' season yet! |
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Rye4Brkfst |
YetiJedi: "Well said, Rye. Thank you for sharing those observations. When I turned 8 I was allowed to ride my back to a lake about a mile and a half away and fish with friends. At about age 10 I could go on my own. In my late 40's now, I can relate to everything you said about "escaping from" as well as "escaping to", so to speak. I like going into the wilderness with close family first and also enjoy going alone from time to time. Thanks, YJ! I also was encouraged to explore on my own at an early age. The Mississippi in the Twin Cities provided a lot of life lessons. I can go on after the 5 day mark, but I start feeling the pull to talk to someone after that as I'm sure a few FS rangers can attest to after running into me. Funny thing that I've never been asked for a permit after an intense round of (probably one sided) conversation. One trip planned for Brule in June, but probably one or two more in the fall. |
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YetiJedi |
Rye4Brkfst: "YetiJedi: "Well said, Rye. Thank you for sharing those observations. When I turned 8 I was allowed to ride my back to a lake about a mile and a half away and fish with friends. At about age 10 I could go on my own. In my late 40's now, I can relate to everything you said about "escaping from" as well as "escaping to", so to speak. I like going into the wilderness with close family first and also enjoy going alone from time to time. Ha! Your interactions with the FS rangers makes me laugh! My first two nights on any solo trip are the toughest - that's when I still want to talk to people, especially family, worry, keep thinking about work dilemmas, etc. Usually oat some point on the third day I hit my groove, set work problems aside, and focus on the happiness of my family relationships and then I can truly enjoy the wilderness. Curious...any cool Mississippi River stomping grounds you can recommend? |
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TuscaroraBorealis |
YetiJedi: " I realize you weren't asking me, and it's an hour or so north of the metro....but, the section just below St. Cloud (especially the Beaver Islands) was always an enjoyable paddle. Usually pulled off in Clearwater. I believe there is still an outfitter there Clear Waters Outfitting Company that provides shuttles if needed and current river conditions etc. It's a great all things paddle/canoe store as well. |
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TuscaroraBorealis |
Minnesotian: "TuscaroraBorealis: "A quote from Blaise Pascal really sums this up and I have personally found it to be true. "All of humanity's problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone." I like those, thanks for sharing. Another favorite quote/thought that this thread has helped me revisit is from (I believe) Socrates. Or, at least, the thought originates from him. "A busy life is an unexamined life. An unexamined life is rarely worth living." |
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hobbydog |
Rye4Brkfst: "YetiJedi: "I can go on after the 5 day mark, but I start feeling the pull to talk to someone after that as I'm sure a few FS rangers can attest to after running into me. Funny thing that I've never been asked for a permit after an intense round of (probably one sided) conversation. |
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YardstickAngler |
My career demands a great deal of time away from home. When I am home, I try very hard to pour myself out into my family (wife and four kids aged between 5-12). Keeping up with the extracurricular activities, an aging home, and acting as the primary cook and maintenance guy at home is very fulfilling and yet very, very overwhelming at times. It takes a great deal of sacrifice from all of us to allow me to make one trip per year, and I purposely choose a week in between sports seasons so I don’t miss too much. Often, this trip seems like a very frivolous, selfish thing. But I also know that dreaming about and planning for it has pulled me through some darker moments when I have felt like the rat race of life was consuming me. My hope is that I will soon be able to bring a child or two along, but ideally I’d still like to take one solo trip per season, too. I need a space in my life where I can settle into the “ancient rhythms” as mentioned in the Sigurd quote above. I don’t know how these rhythms got there, but I know that I feel deeply fulfilled by the simple tasks paddling, navigating, portaging, processing firewood, and observing the “real real world”…nature in all its untamed glory. COVID brought a great deal of chaos to our household, a stark reminder that life is very, very short. My kids and wife are depending on me to be a present, loving provider, and I can give more to them when I press “pause” on the rat race in order to dwell in the beauty and challenge of the wilderness, where I feel the love of God most present. |
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TuscaroraBorealis |
YardstickAngler: "My first solo is this spring. I’m 39 years old, so probably a bit younger than the standard profile paddler the OP mentioned. Thank you so much for sharing your heart so beautifully! My thoughts on the ancient rhythms...is simply that we are all made in the image & likness of God, and EVEN he (on the 7th day) rested! Also check out Mark 6:31. Not saying everyone must choose a canoe trip to rest but, we are all Divinely "wired" to occasionally recharge ourselves through what gives us rest, and to be our best we MUST give ourselves that gift. It's counter-cultural but, it is soooo important. Although, that's a whole other topic in & of itself! |
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Rye4Brkfst |
Each paddle stroke away from the entry point turns another point on the pressure release, moves me closer to equilibrium. That said, about 5 days into it and I'm full of ideas and ready to re-engage. (edited to change "effects" to "affects" because I can never keep them straight) |
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YetiJedi |
It's interesting you feel ready to return and re-engage after about 5 days...I hadn't thought about that part of it so I appreciate your perspective. Any trips planned for you this year? |
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TuscaroraBorealis |
...and taking it up several notches. From the Gospel of Mark 6:31. “Come away by yourselves to a lonely place, and rest a while.” Not Implying everyone necessarily needs to go on a solo canoe trip to achieve this! But, I believe we are all wired to occasionally take some time to meditate/contemplate and refocus in a quiet, solitary setting - where ever & for however long that may be. I do agree that it seems age definitely plays a significant factor in realizing these truths. |
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YetiJedi |
TuscaroraBorealis: "A quote from Blaise Pascal really sums this up and I have personally found it to be true. "All of humanity's problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone." Well said and I appreciate you sharing both quotes. |
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TomT |
TuscaroraBorealis: "Great photo" Thanks TB! It’s out of the ordinary but a view many are familiar with. |
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TomT |
I’ve worked a very physical job since 23 years old, I’m 63 now. In 2014 I had joint pain in one elbow and both knees. You see, I own a window cleaning business and I’ve always been on a crew. So think carrying buckets and climbing ladders and roofs. I got turned on by a fam member to very high quality supplements and started taking them 2x a day. The pain was gone in 2 weeks and never came back. Here’s the interesting part. In the cold months of Jan and Feb I go on unemployment and rarely work. I get out of shape fast!! Real fast if I don’t exercise and break out the cookies. So come March and it’s time to portage the 28 footer to the back of a big house. It’s hard and it’s now heavy. I climb the ladder and it’s a strain. Later that night I’m wiped out and crash at 8 pm. The next day I’m sore all over. My knees now ache. This lasts for a good 2 or 3 weeks as I struggle to build back the muscle I lost that support my shoulders and knees. Gotta build those core back up and shed the 10 pounds of cookies and ice cream now. By May I’m feeling strong. I cut out the bs desserts and eat healthy and take my supplements. Usana is the brand if you need to know. The best. I’m not a distributor anymore but a lifetime customer. So the moral to this is that if we want to have an active geriatric phase of our lives and still be portaging and paddling well into our 80s and even 90s here’s the secret. Get in shape and STAY in shape. It’s got to become a habit you love. |