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04/18/2013 11:42PM |
quote PINETREE: "quote greenydd: "what makes the ice out later on the gunflint than in ely? "
Some of that is more deeper lakes on average up the Gunflint, which ice usually goes out a little later, usually a little more snow cover for a longer time so it might be a few degrees cooler longer, and does lake Superior make a difference in the spring and keep it cooler?"
Overall -- the climate gets cooler the further E you go into the Arrowhead-- LAke Superior. Now-- not the extremes that I-FAlls get but the coldest avg yearly temperature I BELIEVE is at Gunflint Lake or Pigeon River. Avg spring temps are noticeable cooler in GM (use Cook CTY Airport) then I-FALLS.
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04/19/2013 02:00PM |
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04/19/2013 05:29PM |
1. Proximity to the heat-sink effect of Lake Superior, which delays warm-up.
2. Greater snowfall/snow depth in spring (reflects more sunlight, keeps ice insulated)
3. Higher elevation above sea-level (a small influence)
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04/19/2013 03:22PM |
Gunflint June 7
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04/21/2013 10:22PM |
Shagawa May 10th
Gunflint May 14th
I am an optimist.
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05/07/2013 12:45PM |
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04/24/2013 09:25PM |
We have record snow in April, and the melt hasn't even really started. But, we have very warm temps coming at us, combined with long days, and high sun angle. The snow we have is for the most part quite fresh and will melt quickly, adding tons of water to the lakes.
My prediction, based on nothing more than wishful thinking, is that the melt will be shockingly fast. Open water in most places by May 12 (Shagawa too, and the big cold Arrowhead lakes like Gunflint maybe a week later (May 19).
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05/07/2013 10:14PM |
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05/07/2013 10:18PM |
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05/08/2013 06:17AM |
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05/12/2013 08:58PM |
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04/21/2013 01:51AM |
quote The Great Outdoors: "quote halvorsonchristopher1:
I have never paddled on a lake with floating ice. Can this be considered dangerous?
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No problem, just don't paddle after dark! :)"
Thanks, that's what I wanted to hear.
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04/19/2013 11:25PM |
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04/20/2013 01:16PM |
quote mooseplums: "quote halvorsonchristopher1:
I have never paddled on a lake with floating ice. Can this be considered dangerous?
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"ICE BERG RIGHT AHEAD""
Solid Reference. But, is that a fair comparision?
If it is, Why would anyone want to paddle through a mine field?
Who has/will paddle through a ice debris filled lake?
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04/20/2013 01:41PM |
quote halvorsonchristopher1: "Shagawa: May 19thi also posted this pic on another ice out thread. may 9th 1992 from the rog portage looking into seagull, archives said ice when out may 8th we made it from end to end but it took some doing, we paddled through slushy's ,little chunks that sounded like wind chimes and had to break ice along an island to make it to the next open section but i'm sure if you got caught between 2 large ice flows and the wind picked up in an unfavorable direction it could be trouble.(every lake was open after that)
Gunflint: May 26th
I have never paddled on a lake with floating ice. Can this be considered dangerous?
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04/20/2013 02:44PM |
quote mooseplums: "quote halvorsonchristopher1: "Shagawa: May 19th
Gunflint: May 26th
I have never paddled on a lake with floating ice. Can this be considered dangerous?
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"ICE BERG RIGHT AHEAD""
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04/18/2013 08:20PM |
quote PINETREE: "quote Stumpy: "Shagawa Lake.......May 24, 2:30 PM
Gunflint Lake......June 1, 2:30 PM
Toss out any guesses that I've made on other threads."
Well I guess if your right I better cancel my permit for up the Gunflint I have for the end of May. We all know Stumpy is always right on."
I won't be right...I just wanted to pick a June date.
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05/02/2013 05:35PM |
we'll see......
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05/02/2013 08:48PM |
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04/18/2013 02:10PM |
June 11th.
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04/18/2013 03:02PM |
Gunflint, May 21
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04/18/2013 05:39PM |
quote greenydd: "what makes the ice out later on the gunflint than in ely? "
Some of that is more deeper lakes on average up the Gunflint, which ice usually goes out a little later, usually a little more snow cover for a longer time so it might be a few degrees cooler longer, and does lake Superior make a difference in the spring and keep it cooler?
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05/02/2013 09:06PM |
quote Mocha: "not for the contest:
i'm thinking may 16 for Gunflint and May 13 for Shagawa
North Brule river along the gunflint trail, same vantage point
april 20, 2013
april 27, 2013
may 1, 2013"
Nice Pictures Thanks Sheryl.
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04/18/2013 08:04AM |
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04/18/2013 01:26PM |
Gunflint Lake......June 1, 2:30 PM
Toss out any guesses that I've made on other threads.
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04/18/2013 05:36PM |
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05/01/2013 02:40PM |
i'm thinking may 16 for Gunflint and May 13 for Shagawa
North Brule river along the gunflint trail, same vantage point
april 20, 2013 april 27, 2013 may 1, 2013
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04/20/2013 09:37AM |
quote halvorsonchristopher1: "Shagawa: May 19th
Gunflint: May 26th
I have never paddled on a lake with floating ice. Can this be considered dangerous?
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"ICE BERG RIGHT AHEAD"
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04/20/2013 05:03PM |
quote halvorsonchristopher1: "Shagawa: May 19th
Gunflint: May 26th
I have never paddled on a lake with floating ice. Can this be considered dangerous?
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No problem, just don't paddle after dark! :)
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04/23/2013 10:32AM |
May 11 for Shag and May 14 for Gunflint. If I am wrong it will be four days more May 15 and May 18.
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04/23/2013 10:37AM |
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04/23/2013 10:51AM |
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04/23/2013 08:06PM |
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04/24/2013 05:09PM |
as of Tuesday evening april 23:
20 feet off the gunflint lake boat access: 36 inches of ice and about 2 feet of snow on top of the ice.
this test was done by the volunteer fire department so i'd say it's accurate.
today it was 40 degrees, chilly wind. and it's supposed to snow again tonight. so there you have it!
this is the lake that is used to paddle to entry 57 Magnetic lake (granite river route) and 58 South lake.
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04/24/2013 05:18PM |
quote Mocha: "so, here is an update on ice depth...
as of Tuesday evening april 23:
20 feet off the gunflint lake boat access: 36 inches of ice and about 2 feet of snow on top of the ice.
this test was done by the volunteer fire department so i'd say it's accurate.
today it was 40 degrees, chilly wind. and it's supposed to snow again tonight. so there you have it!"
Thanks for update.
Mille lacs area talking a high of 77 degrees Monday and a low of 53 degrees. That will create puddles.
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05/08/2013 06:51AM |
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05/08/2013 06:49PM |
quote Mocha: "That second picture down is Spectacular.gunflint lake may 7, 2013
gunflint and magnetic lakes may 7, 2013
cross river flowing into Ham lake may 7, 2013
Ham lake ice may 7,2013
snow on trail on the way in. may 7, 2013
spruce grouse momma
spruce grouse daddy
there was still quite a bit of ice on Ham lake, several mallards and 1 LOON!!! the more shaded areas still had plenty of snow, ankle deep and real sugary, but otherwise there was no snow.
lots of scat from wolves, rabbits, grouse; tracks from moose, wolves, fox.
the forecast is for snow/rain mix Friday and Saturday. that precip, combined with some wind would work magic on the ice. it's 41 already this morning. "
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05/08/2013 06:11AM |
gunflint lake may 7, 2013gunflint and magnetic lakes may 7, 2013cross river flowing into Ham lake may 7, 2013Ham lake ice may 7,2013snow on trail on the way in. may 7, 2013spruce grouse mommaspruce grouse daddythere was still quite a bit of ice on Ham lake, several mallards and 1 LOON!!! the more shaded areas still had plenty of snow, ankle deep and real sugary, but otherwise there was no snow.
lots of scat from wolves, rabbits, grouse; tracks from moose, wolves, fox.
the forecast is for snow/rain mix Friday and Saturday. that precip, combined with some wind would work magic on the ice. it's 41 already this morning.
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05/08/2013 06:42PM |
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05/08/2013 06:20PM |
Moose Lake Web cam
Shagawa Web cam
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05/09/2013 03:32AM |
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05/09/2013 09:24AM |
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05/09/2013 12:41PM |
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05/09/2013 02:10PM |
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05/07/2013 08:07AM |
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05/11/2013 07:52PM |
The ice on Shagawa as it appeared at 3:00pm on May 11.
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05/11/2013 09:18PM |
quote Zulu: "
The ice on Shagawa as it appeared at 3:00pm on May 11."
Still in the running,I guessed May 13th for Shagawa.
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05/11/2013 09:20PM |
Ain't lookin' good!
You're close, but that won't count.
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05/11/2013 09:30PM |
quote The Great Outdoors: "That would mean ice out this Monday!
Ain't lookin' good!
You're close, but that won't count."
I got to midnight Monday. Yeh, I see it might get down to 21 degrees tonight. That won't help.
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05/12/2013 12:03AM |
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05/12/2013 07:02PM |
quote PINETREE: "quote The Great Outdoors: "That would mean ice out this Monday!
Ain't lookin' good!
You're close, but that won't count."
I got to midnight Monday. Yeh, I see it might get down to 21 degrees tonight. That won't help."
The bad news for you is, that TGO (the Judge Judy of ice out)hits the rack way earlier than that, so anything after 6 pm is considered the next day! :)
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05/12/2013 07:49PM |
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05/12/2013 08:08PM |
quote pswith5: "Is it too late to make a guess?? :)"
Wait a couple of days than you can guess.
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05/14/2013 05:20PM |
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05/14/2013 09:44PM |
quote PINETREE: "Shagawa ice free?"
It wasn't as of 3 this afternoon as a surprisingly large sheet of ice still existed on about 1/4th of the lake.
There were boats on it the last two days where the ice was out.
Should be ice free sometime tomorrow.
I'll check it before 7 am, then at noon to see what's happening.
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05/15/2013 05:50AM |
quote Mocha: "at the narrows of gunflint and magnetic lakes looking south.
Gallagher's Island. still pretty thick ice in the main part of the lake. have to cross gunflint and magnetic to get to the granite river entry 57.
looking east down gunflint lake
Thanks for the update Mocha! That wind and the warm temps should get it done today I would hope.gunflint lake from the narrows, looking southeast-ish.
it was very windy overnight, I thought for sure the lake would be free of ice this morning, but nope! looks like it hardly moved. it's going to be sunny and warm today, we're in a Red Flag warning in terms of wind (erratic and gusty) and the opportunity for fire to spread quickly."
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05/15/2013 01:42PM |
quote arctic: "Looks like my ice-out prediction for Shagawa was dead-on. How do I collect my check?"
Your prediction was right on the money.
Checked with my sources that spoke on condition of anonymity, and Shagawa Lake was ice free about 6-7 pm yesterday evening, after the big gusting wind attack that lasted about a half hour came through!
So congratulations PINETREE, your winning prize of absolutely nothing is in the mail!!
However, you must divide it into thirds and share it with Speckled and Arctic who also predicted May 14th.
YAHOOOOOOOOO!!! :)
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05/14/2013 09:21PM |
quote PINETREE: "quote arctic: "Looks like my ice-out prediction for Shagawa was dead-on. How do I collect my check?"
For us Old Timers:
Yogi Berra says the game isn't over to it over.
Don't count your chickens until they hatch.
Your only half right so far. Your estimate for Gunflint lake was?"
I listed Gunflint Lake's ice-out as 20 May, so I'm still in the running for that one!
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05/15/2013 05:15AM |
at the narrows of gunflint and magnetic lakes looking south. Gallagher's Island. still pretty thick ice in the main part of the lake. have to cross gunflint and magnetic to get to the granite river entry 57. looking east down gunflint lake gunflint lake from the narrows, looking southeast-ish.gunflint lake this morning
it was very windy overnight, I thought for sure the lake would be free of ice this morning, but nope! looks like it hardly moved. it's going to be sunny and warm today, we're in a Red Flag warning in terms of wind (erratic and gusty) and the opportunity for fire to spread quickly.
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05/15/2013 08:16PM |
the wind has been working hard today trying to break up the ice. there is a lot of open water on the Canadian side all along the north shore. the wind pushed it over to the MN side. no rain in site and it's supposed to be warm and sunny again tomorrow.
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05/15/2013 10:19PM |
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05/16/2013 06:25AM |
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04/18/2013 06:48PM |
quote greenydd: "what makes the ice out later on the gunflint than in ely? "
Shagawa Lake is a smaller than Gunflint Lake, so it will be ice free earlier (or should be).
We just picked two lakes, one on each end of the Bdub.
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04/17/2013 06:08PM |
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04/18/2013 01:41PM |
Gunflint May 26, 4pm
Snowing hard in the cities right now. Grass was clear yesterday and it rained all night. Go figure.
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04/18/2013 02:38PM |
quote shock: "wcco just did a nice report on minnetonka ice out(1996 ice out was april 24th) right now open water around some shoreline w/12"-18" of ice, 1 week ago 18"-24" the earliest ice out was 1878 march 11th the latest was 1858 may 8th.... and park rapids has 30" of ice right now....comparing 1996 to this year the opener off the gunflint will be doubtful, the following weekend should be a killer for lake trout YA BABY ! ely much better chance of open lakes on the 11th, off the gunflint reserve your permits for the 17th we did :>)"Cross your fingers and pray for the 17th, that might even be optimistic.
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04/18/2013 02:52PM |
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04/17/2013 09:28AM |
Gunflint - May 19th
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04/17/2013 02:14PM |
quote rupprider: "quote gutmon: "quote Zulu: "I am going to predict dates that would set a record for both lakes.
Shagawa Lake - May 17th
Gunflint Lake - May 28th
Thanks to Mocha and The Great Outdoors for officiating this contest.
Does anyone remember ice out contests where you would guess when a jalopy that was placed on the ice would plunge through? My friends dad won a brand new Hi-Fi Record Console when he correctly guessed right one year in the 1960's.
I don't know why that practice was stopped. The old cars made great Crappie Cribs. :)"
They did this in Hibbing as recently as 6-7 years ago. I do think they removed the car after it sank."
I think your thinking of Chisholm. I believe they switched from a vehicle to a giant bobber looking object a few years ago."
You are correct, sir.
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04/17/2013 03:03PM |
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04/17/2013 03:36PM |
Based on some of the estimates so far, people are suggesting that these lakes might be ice-free in 20 days. That is just crazy talk.
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04/17/2013 03:39PM |
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04/17/2013 04:43PM |
Gunflint: May 20th.
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04/18/2013 07:57AM |
Gunflint May 23rd
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04/17/2013 08:32AM |
Gunflint: May 21
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04/17/2013 08:41AM |
Gunflint: May 17
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04/17/2013 08:50AM |
quote mooseplums: "Shagwa May 18th
Gunflint May 26"
...damn Fall tripper.....
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04/17/2013 09:38AM |
quote BananaHammock: "... and a high of 72º may 16th in ely."
Does this come with a money back guarantee? : )
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04/23/2013 10:49AM |
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04/23/2013 04:25PM |
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04/17/2013 09:26AM |
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04/17/2013 12:49PM |
quote cowdoc: "quote mooseplums: "Shagwa May 18th
Gunflint May 26"
...damn Fall tripper....."
:)
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04/17/2013 04:31PM |
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04/17/2013 08:29AM |
Gunflint: May 25
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04/17/2013 12:27PM |
quote Zulu: "I am going to predict dates that would set a record for both lakes.
Shagawa Lake - May 17th
Gunflint Lake - May 28th
Thanks to Mocha and The Great Outdoors for officiating this contest.
Does anyone remember ice out contests where you would guess when a jalopy that was placed on the ice would plunge through? My friends dad won a brand new Hi-Fi Record Console when he correctly guessed right one year in the 1960's.
I don't know why that practice was stopped. The old cars made great Crappie Cribs. :)"
They did this in Hibbing as recently as 6-7 years ago. I do think they removed the car after it sank.
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04/17/2013 01:11PM |
quote gutmon: "quote Zulu: "I am going to predict dates that would set a record for both lakes.
Shagawa Lake - May 17th
Gunflint Lake - May 28th
Thanks to Mocha and The Great Outdoors for officiating this contest.
Does anyone remember ice out contests where you would guess when a jalopy that was placed on the ice would plunge through? My friends dad won a brand new Hi-Fi Record Console when he correctly guessed right one year in the 1960's.
I don't know why that practice was stopped. The old cars made great Crappie Cribs. :)"
They did this in Hibbing as recently as 6-7 years ago. I do think they removed the car after it sank."
I think your thinking of Chisholm. I believe they switched from a vehicle to a giant bobber looking object a few years ago.
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04/17/2013 03:46PM |
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05/01/2013 07:42PM |
quote Mocha: "not for the contest:
i'm thinking may 16 for Gunflint and May 13 for Shagawa
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Sheryl,
The deadline for the guessing was midnight, April 30th.
However, since the judges like you, we will allow the guess! :)
All other guesses are officially sealed!!
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05/09/2013 02:45PM |
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05/09/2013 03:01PM |
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05/09/2013 03:43PM |
The Sea Gull River was opening up nicely on Tuesday afternoon but Sea Gull Lake was still frozen to the shore and islands. There was just a few feet of open water at the Public landing near SeaGull Outfitters and the edge of the ice looked about one foot thick.
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05/09/2013 04:49PM |
Sawbill Newsletter
5/9/13 - Big progress! Today's Sawbill Lake ice report: 14".
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05/09/2013 09:33AM |
quote Mocha: "
there was still quite a bit of ice on Ham lake, several mallards and 1 LOON!!! the more shaded areas still had plenty of snow, ankle deep and real sugary, but otherwise there was no snow.
lots of scat from wolves, rabbits, grouse; tracks from moose, wolves, fox.
the forecast is for snow/rain mix Friday and Saturday. that precip, combined with some wind would work magic on the ice. it's 41 already this morning. "
I look at those photo's and I get jealous and am not ashamed of it. Looks and sounds like beauty,peace,clean air and the sound of silence,except for nature.
Reason I brought it up I was in the woods this morning 0.25 to 0.5 miles from a major highway close to where I live. Here I am back in the woods,suppose to be quite and all I hear is car and truck noise and can smell exhaust fumes 0.5 miles away. We don't have the clean air smell we use to have.
Mocha you got all the good things up there.
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05/09/2013 02:51PM |
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05/14/2013 05:44PM |
I see a boat traveling in front of the camera at 5:44pm.
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05/14/2013 11:11AM |
Shagawa from the Grand Ely Lodge
Moose Lake Web cam
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05/14/2013 06:02PM |
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05/14/2013 06:15PM |
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05/14/2013 06:43PM |
quote arctic: "Looks like my ice-out prediction for Shagawa was dead-on. How do I collect my check?"
For us Old Timers:
Yogi Berra says the game isn't over to it over.
Don't count your chickens until they hatch.
Your only half right so far. Your estimate for Gunflint lake was?
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05/14/2013 08:39AM |
TGO are you getting any reports from other lakes in the area opening?
I am waiting? Going to get my canoe ready and hope to head up very soon.
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05/14/2013 08:38PM |
Gunflint Web Cams
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05/14/2013 09:49PM |
quote arctic: "Looks like my ice-out prediction for Shagawa was dead-on. How do I collect my check?"
Sorry, close but no cigar! :)
Read the previous post.
I never thought it would make it through the day with the wind and heat we had.
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05/14/2013 11:49PM |
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04/19/2013 11:48PM |
Gunflint: May 26th
I have never paddled on a lake with floating ice. Can this be considered dangerous?
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04/18/2013 01:34PM |
quote Stumpy: "Shagawa Lake.......May 24, 2:30 PM
Gunflint Lake......June 1, 2:30 PM
Toss out any guesses that I've made on other threads."
Well I guess if your right I better cancel my permit for up the Gunflint I have for the end of May. We all know Stumpy is always right on.
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04/18/2013 03:42PM |
quote bassnut: "May 10 for Moss-Duncan.....i hope"
Last year 2012 I was fishing lake trout on Moss on March 29th before season closed. About half the lake had floating ice and we trolled around it. Lakes like West Bearskin were still solid ice than.
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04/18/2013 03:44PM |
quote burntsider: "Given the shade from the new monster bird-slaughtering cell tower on the Fernberg, I'd have to guess Shagawa won't clear before May 16 and Gunflint May 17. Lakes to the north of this tower would stay ice covered forever except for the heating effect of the Kawishiwi River which is now already spoiled because of the possibility of underground mining resuming in the area in ten years."
One thing your consistent with your opinions.
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04/18/2013 05:51PM |
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04/18/2013 11:22PM |
and May 25th for the lost Gunflint lake.
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04/18/2013 02:58PM |
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04/17/2013 10:00AM |
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04/17/2013 11:13AM |
Gunflint: May 20
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04/17/2013 02:17PM |
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04/17/2013 02:32PM |
Shagawa Lake - May 20th
Gunflint Lake - May 24th
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04/17/2013 05:27PM |
quote PINETREE: "Last year we had a problem with a lot of late entries so a deadline date to enter should be established. Like 10 days or less or whatever Great Outdoors and your side-kick Mocha think it should be."
Good idea!
Why don't we make it midnight, April 30th!
No more guesses or changing dates after that.
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04/17/2013 05:50PM |
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04/17/2013 09:12AM |
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04/17/2013 09:29AM |
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04/17/2013 09:45AM |
Gunflint - May 12
JD
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04/17/2013 10:39AM |
quote inspector13: "quote BananaHammock: "... and a high of 72º may 16th in ely."
Does this come with a money back guarantee? : )
"
No money back, but I will give it a lifetime limited warranty.
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04/17/2013 11:06AM |
Shagawa Lake - May 17th
Gunflint Lake - May 28th
Thanks to Mocha and The Great Outdoors for officiating this contest.
Does anyone remember ice out contests where you would guess when a jalopy that was placed on the ice would plunge through? My friends dad won a brand new Hi-Fi Record Console when he correctly guessed right one year in the 1960's.
I don't know why that practice was stopped. The old cars made great Crappie Cribs. :)
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04/17/2013 08:10AM |
I'll volunteer to judge the Shagawa ice out, and will volunteer Mocha to judge ice out on Gunflint Lake, if that's OK with the forum:
Here we go with the official TGO guess:
Shagawa Lake: May 15th
Gunflint Lake: May 22nd.
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04/17/2013 08:31AM |
Gunflint- May 18
(I'm an optimist)
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04/17/2013 08:46AM |
Gunflint May 26
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04/17/2013 08:54AM |
Gunflint: May 28