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Eightweight

06/21/2012 04:49PM

I will be buying a stove and was going to get a MSR Dragonfly but all of the more experienced hikers / campers say by the time you set up and light the Dragonfly the canister people with like a Reactor stove have boiled their water??

Thanks for the help as the canisters seem to be taking over in the favorite category but I may be wrong!!!

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Ragged

06/21/2012 05:07PM

I've been REALLY happy with my Jetboil SOL stove kit, packs pretty small and the entire little rig has everything you would need, lots of smart innovations not found on other stoves. The entire rig with weighs just over 13oz, that’s the stove, cup with lid/strainer, measuring cup/bowel, pot stabilizer , canister base/stabilizer. Everything including a 100g fuel fits inside the cup so it packs very small, boils 2 cups of water in 2 mins, can easily make 20+ meals on a canister. I like the jet boil stuff has it has a nice neoprene cozy for the pot, keeps heat in so less fuel is used, I also really like how the cup attaches to the stove, lots of my buddies bring little micro MSR deals with and they are ALWAYS fighting the wind and level ground, the Jetboil rig with stabilizer and locking cup can be left alone on a pretty uneven surface and will be just fine, cup will never slide off and base makes it harder to tip over. Igniter works great, the coils on the bottom transfer lots of heat to the cup without waist. The entire thing packs about the size of a Nalgene bottle, that’s everything needed to cook and eat 20 some meals.

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mirth

06/21/2012 05:21PM

It really boils down to what works best for your personal preference & situation. If you're traveling internationally or to places where canisters can't be found easily then get the dragonfly. If you're going to be staying in more developed areas then the canister will certainly be maybe a little quicker.

Of course, canister fuel's more expensive than white gas so you have that to take into consideration too.

I have a MSR WindPro. I like it a lot. Its been used at colder temps where other canisters would fail because it can be run with the canister inverted as it has a generator tube.

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Humdinger

06/21/2012 05:46PM

You buy a dragonfly if you want a wide stable platform that can go from roar to simmer. The canister crowd is the opposite extreme.

I've contemplated getting a canister stove, but can't quite bring myself to it yet so I will watch this thread.

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Savage Voyageur

06/21/2012 05:50PM

The Dragonfly stove is the best selling stove Internationally and will continue to be. It will burn jet fuel, white gas, stoddard solvent, regular gas, diesel fuel, kerosene oil, and one more that I can't remember. If you are traveling to another country you can get fuel for it. It can simmer very well and than turn into a blow torch. It is not for everyone but I really like it to cook on.

If you are just using the stove for boil and dump foods you have the wrong stove like your friends said. If it is a canister stove you want I would try to find the lightest stove that fits your pots that you can find. I have a snopeak titanium stove that screws onto a fuel can that weights 1.8 oz total. Then I use an aluminum wind screen. I see no need to bring extra weight that the reactor or the Jetboil. Save yourself a $100.00 and 16 oz of weight and get a snopeak and a windscreen.

"So many lakes, so little time."

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kanoes

06/21/2012 06:04PM

pocket rockets for me. windscreen ideas

i think bigfoot is blurry. (mitch hedberg)

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Ragged

06/21/2012 06:55PM

quote Savage Voyageur: "If you are just using the stove for boil and dump foods you have the wrong stove like your friends said. If it is a canister stove you want I would try to find the lightest stove that fits your pots that you can find. I have a snopeak titanium stove that screws onto a fuel can that weights 1.8 oz total. Then I use an aluminum wind screen. I see no need to bring extra weight that the reactor or the Jetboil. Save yourself a $100.00 and 16 oz of weight and get a snopeak and a windscreen. "

The Jetboil SOL stove only weighs 3.3oz and that’s including the igniter which can be very handy, as for the rest of the kit I can't see how that could be considered extra weight if its what you are boiling water in. Granted the little stabilizers could be considered extra items but they don’t add to the size, weigh almost nothing and are extremely useful. What would you suggest boiling water in? It would seem to me the cup with the Jetboil kit is very useful, it’s the only one I bring, I boil water and make hot liquids in it, the neoprene cozy is great for holding on to hot liquids, also increases the efficiency when windy and cold, further adding to the weight savings.

The weight comparison is more complicated than the basic numbers would suggest. The jet boil and similar set ups are undeniably more efficient in transferring BTU's to the cup, in the case of the SOL vs the Pocket Pocket it can boil about 8.1 liters of water per 100g canister vs 6.6, To boil the same amount of water with the pocket rocket will require 25 more grams of fuel, close to an ounce in weight so that needs to be factored in.

The Jetboil type setups also don’t need a wind screen, at least not as much as others, the fins on the bottom do a really good job of blocking the stoves inner cone from the wind, the weight of the wind screen should also be factored in when comparing.

All in all when you factor in fuel weight and cup I’m not sure how you get much lighter, what are you guys boiling your water in? It has to have some weight to it, the SOL is also available in Titanium, even lighter, under 9.9oz total and you could drop another 2.4 oz by ditching the pot and base stabilizer, that’s 7.5 oz, subtract the 1 oz for fuel saved and you are at 6.5oz, pocket rocket is 3oz, a Snowpeak titanium 20oz mug weighs 4.8 ounces.

So for me its pretty clear the weight savings is very very little and close to nothing, but you are missing out on the slick rig of having the cup attach to the stove, its very liberating to have less than level ground and not worry about your water sliding off. The Jetboil cozy also has a heat activated panel, when it glows the water is boiling, no lifting the lid to look at it, every time you lift a lid you are wasting fuel. Also by having the entire system designed together you can maximize space efficiency, when the Jetboil stuff is packed it fill the container 100%, no wasted space, VERY compact little kit.

With 2cups of water, could go even further but started sliding on the cookie sheet.

Cold

!$/a

Half way there

Shes boiling, no need to peek, the cozy tells you all you need to know!

With 2 cups boiling water, cozy lets you grab it, can make instant coffee in there, put lid on and drink, can boil pasta and use lid to strain

Stove, stabalizer and 100g canister inside cup

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kanoes

06/21/2012 07:42PM

quote Ragged: "quote Savage Voyageur: "If you are just using the stove for boil and dump foods you have the wrong stove like your friends said. If it is a canister stove you want I would try to find the lightest stove that fits your pots that you can find. I have a snopeak titanium stove that screws onto a fuel can that weights 1.8 oz total. Then I use an aluminum wind screen. I see no need to bring extra weight that the reactor or the Jetboil. Save yourself a $100.00 and 16 oz of weight and get a snopeak and a windscreen. "

The Jetboil SOL stove only weighs 3.3oz and that’s including the igniter which can be very handy, as for the rest of the kit I can't see how that could be considered extra weight if its what you are boiling water in. Granted the little stabilizers could be considered extra items but they don’t add to the size, weigh almost nothing and are extremely useful. What would you suggest boiling water in? It would seem to me the cup with the Jetboil kit is very useful, it’s the only one I bring, I boil water and make hot liquids in it, the neoprene cozy is great for holding on to hot liquids, also increases the efficiency when windy and cold, further adding to the weight savings. The weight comparison is more complicated than the basic numbers would suggest. The jet boil and similar set ups are undeniably more efficient in transferring BTU's to the cup, in the case of the SOL vs the Pocket Pocket it can boil about 8.1 liters of water per 100g canister vs 6.6, To boil the same amount of water with the pocket rocket will require 25 more grams of fuel, close to an ounce in weight so that needs to be factored in. The Jetboil type setups also don’t need a wind screen, the fins on the bottom do a really good job of blocking the stoves inner cone from the wind, the weight of the wind screen should also be factored in when comparing. All in all when you factor in fuel weight and cup I’m not sure how you get much lighter, what are you guys boiling your water in? It has to have some weight to it, the SOL is also available in Titanium, even lighter, under 9.9oz total and you could drop another 2.4 oz by ditching the pot and base stabilizer, that’s 7.5 oz, subtract the 1 oz for fuel saved and you are at 6.5oz, pocket rocket is 3oz, a Snowpeak titanium 20oz mug weighs 4.8 ounces. So for me its pretty clear the weight savings is very very little and close to nothing, but you are missing out on the slick rig of having the cup attach to the stove, its very liberating to have less than level ground and not worry about your water sliding off. The Jetboil cozy also has a heat activated panel, when it glows the water is boiling, no lifting the lid to look at it, every time you lift a lid you are wasting fuel. Also by having the entire system designed together you can maximize space efficiency, when the Jetboil stuff is packed it fill the container 100%, no wasted space, VERY compact little kit. "
ever heard of paragraphs? :)

i think bigfoot is blurry. (mitch hedberg)

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Ragged

06/21/2012 07:45PM

quote kanoes: "
ever heard of paragraphs? :)"

Sorry, wrote it in Word (I'm at work, looks more legit if someone walks by and I'm typing in Word vs BWCA.com), when I copy/paste they go away. :)

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kanoes

06/21/2012 07:49PM

sneaky bastard. :)

i think bigfoot is blurry. (mitch hedberg)

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yellowcanoe

06/21/2012 08:07PM

I like my WindPro. Have had it a number of years..at least five. Last April at sixteen degrees it decided to fitz and sputter and took forever to bring water to a boil. We did our week long canoe trip anyway..it did get a little warmer..about 45 and upon arrival home sent it to MSR.

They sent us a new stove. The original no way was under warranty.

I like to bake occasionally and low simmer stuff. For a canister the WP does that well. What it wont do is fly if you cannot be sure of a canister supply at your flights end. I still have two Peak 1 Exponent remote tank white gas stoves for that very reason.

I also have a backup canister stove. MSR Superfly which does dump and boil well. Very well.

I eschew igniters. The SuperFly does have one as an optional accessory. Those things always seem to break from what I have seen from other's stoves.

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Sierra1

06/21/2012 09:53PM

+1 for the Windpro. I also use an Optimus Crux. I'm a big fan of the canister stoves.

Watch out for that rock!!!........ Oooo.... That's going to leave a mark...

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TeamTuna06

06/21/2012 11:47PM

quote Ragged: "Sorry, wrote it in Word (I'm at work, looks more legit if someone walks by and I'm typing in Word vs BWCA.com), when I copy/paste they go away. :)"

Well done!

I just picked up the MSR Superfly. It's a little bigger than the Pocket Rocket, but will boil water in less time (3 min vs. 3.5 min). To me, the time waiting for coffee in the morning is more important than the ounce or two in weight.

"If people concentrated on the really important things in life, there’d be a shortage of fishing poles." -Doug Larson

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PortageKeeper

06/22/2012 12:30AM

+1 on the Jetboil SOL. Used the original Jetboil for 4 or 5 years and just had to get the Sol when it came out. Very efficient. On one spring trip two of us used my original, and a 220 gram canister lasted through the entire five day trip.

“The more you know, the less you carry” Mors Kochanski

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andym

06/22/2012 01:47AM

It really depends on your style. The Dragonfly is a great stove, although a bit noisy, but is aimed at people who do more than just boil water. We cook, bake, ... and it does that well. We did switch to the canister Windpro for simplicity of use and quietness. But it is a canister stove that also is good for all types of cooking and lets you use a windscreen. If you want to just boil water then one of the stoves aimed at that will be faster. If I was doing an international trip I would go back to the Dragonfly for the ease of using different types of fuel.

Whether you are using canisters or liquid fuel, you aren't able to fly with leftover fuel and so have to find a way to get rid of it or burn it off before flying. Flying with stoves can be tough anyway because if the stove even smells of fuel, then it might not be aloud on the flight.

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bwcasolo

06/22/2012 05:23AM

msr windpro is my pick. from simmer to boil.

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mjmkjun

06/22/2012 05:24AM

Have the Reactor Stove. It's great for one pot meals {boiling}. I like it a lot. I have pocket rocket too. (Also, Dragonfly but you specified iso canister stoves)

All good suggestions listed in the responses/thread. Don't think you can go wrong with any of 'em.

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lean

06/22/2012 11:32AM

Snow peak with windscreen for me. Used the MSR WhisperLite in the past, good stove, just wanted something simpler.

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PineKnot

06/22/2012 11:37AM

I've gone to the Primus Classic. Cheap, small, reliable, lightweight, simple to use.

Do what you can, with what you have, where you are -- Teddy Roosevelt

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Eightweight

06/22/2012 01:20PM

quote Ragged: "quote Savage Voyageur: "If you are just using the stove for boil and dump foods you have the wrong stove like your friends said. If it is a canister stove you want I would try to find the lightest stove that fits your pots that you can find. I have a snopeak titanium stove that screws onto a fuel can that weights 1.8 oz total. Then I use an aluminum wind screen. I see no need to bring extra weight that the reactor or the Jetboil. Save yourself a $100.00 and 16 oz of weight and get a snopeak and a windscreen. "

The Jetboil SOL stove only weighs 3.3oz and that’s including the igniter which can be very handy, as for the rest of the kit I can't see how that could be considered extra weight if its what you are boiling water in. Granted the little stabilizers could be considered extra items but they don’t add to the size, weigh almost nothing and are extremely useful. What would you suggest boiling water in? It would seem to me the cup with the Jetboil kit is very useful, it’s the only one I bring, I boil water and make hot liquids in it, the neoprene cozy is great for holding on to hot liquids, also increases the efficiency when windy and cold, further adding to the weight savings.

The weight comparison is more complicated than the basic numbers would suggest. The jet boil and similar set ups are undeniably more efficient in transferring BTU's to the cup, in the case of the SOL vs the Pocket Pocket it can boil about 8.1 liters of water per 100g canister vs 6.6, To boil the same amount of water with the pocket rocket will require 25 more grams of fuel, close to an ounce in weight so that needs to be factored in.

The Jetboil type setups also don’t need a wind screen, at least not as much as others, the fins on the bottom do a really good job of blocking the stoves inner cone from the wind, the weight of the wind screen should also be factored in when comparing.

All in all when you factor in fuel weight and cup I’m not sure how you get much lighter, what are you guys boiling your water in? It has to have some weight to it, the SOL is also available in Titanium, even lighter, under 9.9oz total and you could drop another 2.4 oz by ditching the pot and base stabilizer, that’s 7.5 oz, subtract the 1 oz for fuel saved and you are at 6.5oz, pocket rocket is 3oz, a Snowpeak titanium 20oz mug weighs 4.8 ounces.

So for me its pretty clear the weight savings is very very little and close to nothing, but you are missing out on the slick rig of having the cup attach to the stove, its very liberating to have less than level ground and not worry about your water sliding off. The Jetboil cozy also has a heat activated panel, when it glows the water is boiling, no lifting the lid to look at it, every time you lift a lid you are wasting fuel. Also by having the entire system designed together you can maximize space efficiency, when the Jetboil stuff is packed it fill the container 100%, no wasted space, VERY compact little kit.

With 2cups of water, could go even further but started sliding on the cookie sheet.

Cold

!$/a

Half way there

Shes boiling, no need to peek, the cozy tells you all you need to know!

With 2 cups boiling water, cozy lets you grab it, can make instant coffee in there, put lid on and drink, can boil pasta and use lid to strain

Stove, stabalizer and 100g canister inside cup
"

WOW I had no idea these were so neat!!

Thanks for the posting and will loook at getting the jetboil ti can you help with the Sumo or others like the frypay option do they work as well?
Thanks
Bill

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Ragged

06/22/2012 03:15PM

quote Eightweight: "
WOW I had no idea these were so neat!!

Thanks for the posting and will loook at getting the jetboil ti can you help with the Sumo or others like the frypay option do they work as well?
Thanks
Bill"

I do have the Sumo and the Fry Pan. Sumo cup works great for making water for two people, but honestly I haven’t used it as much as I had thought I would, it only takes 2 min to boil water so if a buddy is with and we are sharing a stove we do one meal and then do another, the 2nd guy is just 2 minutes behind the first, not a huge deal. If I was going on longer trips and relying on the stove more I may bring the Sum more often because the stove and a 240g canister will fit inside the Sumo, also I think 2- 240g canisters will fit inside the Sumo but not with the stove inside.

The Fry Pan I can’t comment on too much, I have it, have used it a few times to make hashbrowns and some small fish fillets fried in oil but will not weigh in on it without more use, the reviews of it on REI are not good, lots of people say stuff burns and sticks, which to me is really a symptom of this type of stove, they are truly designed for boil and dump use, if I’m going to be doing any major gourmet stuff this isn’t the one I bring. Even with the heat sinks the pan will get a hot spot in the middle, even throttled down very low all these little stoves seem scorch in the center when making food, and while the anodized finish is very tough and won’t flake off it’s not as good of a non-stick as others pans you may have around your home. One thing that is nice is the heat sink fins on the fry pan keep it from sliding off the stove, it doesn’t lock like the cup but if you are frying fish in oil you would clearly need to level the stove it bit more anyways.

Having the entire kit in one little unit as really helped me use the stove a bunch more, I find myself tossing it in my bag when I go to the shooting range, competitions, hunting, have even made a hot meal or two while in the canoe. Having the cup attach to the stove is the best feature of this type of stove, I could never go back.

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Minnesotian

06/22/2012 06:25PM

Well, i am going to chime in here with a different option.

Up until this spring, i have been using a MSR Pocket Rocket. Loved it. It went every where. Tough, durable, and lit everytime. One problem i had with it though: I couldn't use it during winter and also when the canister got low pressure, the output of the stove would lessen. But, you can't beat the price. Got mine for $35.

Then this spring along came this: Soto Micro Stove
And this is my go-to stove now. Lighter then the Pocket Rocket and a tad more compact. About more then double the price though too. But the biggest thing, and I can confirm this, is that it won't loose effency when the fuel in the canister looses pressure. And there are numerous reviews out there of people putting the whole deal in a freezer overnight, then lighting it up the next day without a problem.

Just my 2 cents.

"We should go forth on the shortest walk, perchance in the spirit of undying adventure, never to return - prepared to send back our embalmed hearts only as relics to our desolate kingdom." - Thoreau

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kanoes

06/22/2012 07:04PM

hey craig...if you make it to mini wing next friday, do me a fav and bring that with you. id like to take a peek.

i think bigfoot is blurry. (mitch hedberg)

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GeoFisher

06/22/2012 08:20PM

It really depends on what you use a stove for, how many you cook for, and a few other factors.

I love the small canister stoves for ONE or TWO people, but for a bigger group, hang it up.

I have Primus Omnifuel stoves, which will burn anything and everything. I use it as a canister stove when I want really defined control. I use white gas pretty much all other times.

If you're frying fish for 6 folks, you definitely don't want a little bitty pocket rocket. YOU WANT something with a little bulk.

Like I said, it really depends on how you plan on using the stove.

I usually have bigger groups with 4-8 folks. We fry fish, bake bread, perk coffee......multiple pots, make pancakes, etc, etc. we use a lot of fuel, and spend some time cooking.

Later,

Geo

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Minnesotian

06/22/2012 09:34PM

quote GeoFisher: "It really depends on what you use a stove for, how many you cook for, and a few other factors.

Later,

Geo"

This is very true. For groups of 4 or more I bring my Whisperlite white gas stove. Pert near bombproof.

Jan, will do.

"We should go forth on the shortest walk, perchance in the spirit of undying adventure, never to return - prepared to send back our embalmed hearts only as relics to our desolate kingdom." - Thoreau

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Eightweight

06/22/2012 10:48PM

quote Minnesotian: "
Well, i am going to chime in here with a different option.

Can you simmer with the SOTO???

Then this spring along came this: Soto Micro Stove
And this is my go-to stove now. Lighter then the Pocket Rocket and a tad more compact. About more then double the price though too. But the biggest thing, and I can confirm this, is that it won't loose effency when the fuel in the canister looses pressure. And there are numerous reviews out there of people putting the whole deal in a freezer overnight, then lighting it up the next day without a problem.

Just my 2 cents. "

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Eightweight

06/22/2012 11:20PM

quote GeoFisher: "It really depends on what you use a stove for, how many you cook for, and a few other factors.

I love the small canister stoves for ONE or TWO people, but for a bigger group, hang it up. agreed I will have 4 people

I have Primus Omnifuel stoves, which will burn anything and everything. I use it as a canister stove when I want really defined control. I use white gas pretty much all other times.

Anyone seen or used this one ??
http://www.primus.eu/templates/pages/3_cols_white_middle.aspx?SectionId=5888

If you're frying fish for 6 folks, you definitely don't want a little bitty pocket rocket. YOU WANT something with a little bulk.

Like I said, it really depends on how you plan on using the stove.

I usually have bigger groups with 4-8 folks. We fry fish, bake bread, perk coffee......multiple pots, make pancakes, etc, etc. we use a lot of fuel, and spend some time cooking.

Later,

Geo"

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Eightweight

06/22/2012 11:21PM

quote Eightweight: "quote GeoFisher: "It really depends on what you use a stove for, how many you cook for, and a few other factors.

I love the small canister stoves for ONE or TWO people, but for a bigger group, hang it up. agreed I will have 4 people

I have Primus Omnifuel stoves, which will burn anything and everything. I use it as a canister stove when I want really defined control. I use white gas pretty much all other times.

Anyone seen or used this one ??
http://www.primus.eu/templates/pages/3_cols_white_middle.aspx?SectionId=5888

If you're frying fish for 6 folks, you definitely don't want a little bitty pocket rocket. YOU WANT something with a little bulk.

Like I said, it really depends on how you plan on using the stove.

I usually have bigger groups with 4-8 folks. We fry fish, bake bread, perk coffee......multiple pots, make pancakes, etc, etc. we use a lot of fuel, and spend some time cooking.

Later,

Geo"" anyone tried this one???

http://www.primus.eu/templates/pages/3_cols_white_middle.aspx?SectionId=5888

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Eightweight

06/22/2012 11:23PM

quote Eightweight: "quote Eightweight: "quote GeoFisher: "It really depends on what you use a stove for, how many you cook for, and a few other factors.

I love the small canister stoves for ONE or TWO people, but for a bigger group, hang it up. agreed I will have 4 people

I have Primus Omnifuel stoves, which will burn anything and everything. I use it as a canister stove when I want really defined control. I use white gas pretty much all other times.

Anyone seen or used this one ??
http://www.primus.eu/templates/pages/3_cols_white_middle.aspx?SectionId=5888

If you're frying fish for 6 folks, you definitely don't want a little bitty pocket rocket. YOU WANT something with a little bulk.

Like I said, it really depends on how you plan on using the stove.

I usually have bigger groups with 4-8 folks. We fry fish, bake bread, perk coffee......multiple pots, make pancakes, etc, etc. we use a lot of fuel, and spend some time cooking.

Later,

Geo"" anyone tried this one???

http://www.primus.eu/templates/pages/3_cols_white_middle.aspx?SectionId=5888"

Also Geo how many stoves do you run???? say or 4 people ?
do you like the Primus better than say a Dragonfly by MSR

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togue

06/23/2012 01:18AM

quote lean: "Snow peak with windscreen for me. Used the MSR WhisperLite in the past, good stove, just wanted something simpler."

Same for me, had it for years no problems at all.

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Minnesotian

06/23/2012 10:16AM

Eightweight,
Yeppers, I can simmer with the Soto. Not so much with the Whisperlite though.

"We should go forth on the shortest walk, perchance in the spirit of undying adventure, never to return - prepared to send back our embalmed hearts only as relics to our desolate kingdom." - Thoreau

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GeoFisher

06/23/2012 11:32AM

Eightweight.

I have used the following:

BIG Green Dragon (coleman suitcase stove)
Whisperlight
Coleman 440
Dragonfly
Pocket Rocket
Primus Omnifuel

The Big Green Dragon would be my choice all the time, but they are HEAVY.

The Whisperlight doesn't simmer very well....painful to slow cook.

The Coleman 440 belongs to my friend AP. He still uses it on every trip. I'd probably use this stove too, if it was mine.

Dragonfly. This too belongs to a friend. On the trips that it has been taken, it works as good as my Primus stoves, but the pump broke on this stove a few years ago, so we have not used it in a while. A replacement pump is about 40 bucks, AND I might do that and use it next year.

Pocket Rocket. Good for 1-2 people if all you do is boil, and quick boil at that.

Primus Omni. My primary stoves. Been taking them for years.....They will do it all and are close to as good as the big green dragon.

I always take 2 stoves, and the whisperlight as a backup.

The Primus Omni's are always fired up, working. In the morning, we usually do a complete pot of coffee or hot water, and use the other for whatever.

When frying fish for 4-6-8 folks, we have 2 frypans, and 2 stoves going. We cook 2 sides and put them in cozies off the fire, then blast through the fish in 10-20 minutes with 2 stoves.

We don't really worry too much about fuel, and usually have AT LEAST 20 oz left over every trip. It doesn't weigh too much and we don't have to worry if we're using too much.

Later,

Geo

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Kots

07/04/2012 09:14PM

quote Ragged: "quote kanoes: "
ever heard of paragraphs? :)"

Sorry, wrote it in Word (I'm at work, looks more legit if someone walks by and I'm typing in Word vs BWCA.com), when I copy/paste they go away. :)"

How is this when cooking for 6? We always bring 2 stoves, but usually need bigger ones for frying pans and pots for pastas/sides. I like the idea of a Jetboil for morning coffee...

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Eightweight

07/05/2012 07:42AM

quote GeoFisher: "Eightweight.

I have used the following:

BIG Green Dragon (coleman suitcase stove)
Whisperlight
Coleman 440
Dragonfly
Pocket Rocket
Primus Omnifuel

The Big Green Dragon would be my choice all the time, but they are HEAVY.

The Whisperlight doesn't simmer very well....painful to slow cook.

The Coleman 440 belongs to my friend AP. He still uses it on every trip. I'd probably use this stove too, if it was mine.

Dragonfly. This too belongs to a friend. On the trips that it has been taken, it works as good as my Primus stoves, but the pump broke on this stove a few years ago, so we have not used it in a while. A replacement pump is about 40 bucks, AND I might do that and use it next year.

Pocket Rocket. Good for 1-2 people if all you do is boil, and quick boil at that.

Primus Omni. My primary stoves. Been taking them for years.....They will do it all and are close to as good as the big green dragon.

I always take 2 stoves, and the whisperlight as a backup.

The Primus Omni's are always fired up, working. In the morning, we usually do a complete pot of coffee or hot water, and use the other for whatever.

When frying fish for 4-6-8 folks, we have 2 frypans, and 2 stoves going. We cook 2 sides and put them in cozies off the fire, then blast through the fish in 10-20 minutes with 2 stoves.

We don't really worry too much about fuel, and usually have AT LEAST 20 oz left over every trip. It doesn't weigh too much and we don't have to worry if we're using too much.

Later,

Geo"

Geo, how much fuel do you take with you for the Primus??

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mooseplums

07/05/2012 07:46AM

I use the Optimus Crux...I like the compact size

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chipaddler

07/05/2012 08:44AM

quote mooseplums: "I use the Optimus Crux...I like the compact size "

mooseplums - tried this stove for the first time on my last trip (after my raptor got damaged). Did you have any problems with it maintaining a consistent a flame height? I would set it at a certain level and then it would seem to slowly die down.

At first I really liked it because the flame was super adjustable and would simmer nice. Not sure if user error on my part somewhere.

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Sierra1

07/05/2012 11:23AM

quote chipaddler: "quote mooseplums: "I use the Optimus Crux...I like the compact size "

mooseplums - tried this stove for the first time on my last trip (after my raptor got damaged). Did you have any problems with it maintaining a consistent a flame height? I would set it at a certain level and then it would seem to slowly die down.

At first I really liked it because the flame was super adjustable and would simmer nice. Not sure if user error on my part somewhere."

I have the same stove and used it on my last trip along with a Wind Pro. It worked very well without the flame issues you mention. You may want to check and see if it does the same thing with another brand/cannister of fuel.

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GeoFisher

07/05/2012 03:06PM

quote Eightweight: "quote GeoFisher: "Eightweight.

Geo, how much fuel do you take with you for the Primus??"

It really depends, but I usually take 5-6 bottles. And usually take 1-2 of the isobutane too.

Understand, we do a ton of cooking, and with 2 stoves going for 6-7 people it takes quite a bit of cooking. I also do some baking too and that is why I take the iso butane.

Now, not all my cooking is at full throttle with the stoves either. When making coffee and perking, I boil, and the drop the temp way back to slow perk.

When making pancakes, about 1/2 throttle.
When frying fish about 1/2 throttle.

Fuel is light, so an extra bottle is not a big issue. A few years ago I was anal about the 1 extra lb of fuel and ended up running out and had to cook over a fire. SUCKED. I would have been good on that trip but it was extremely windy, and no matter how you setup the wind break or wind shield, you were in the wind. I used about 20% more fuel on that trip.

Now, If I have a full bottle left over, who give a rip......AT least I didn't run out.

Later,

Geo

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