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kanoes

05/03/2012 11:13PM

please allow me to get you into the 2010's, if only for a few minutes.

eject your 8 tracks, take the needles off the vinyl...

jack conte

i think bigfoot is blurry. (mitch hedberg)

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bruceye

05/03/2012 11:34PM

Harry Connick Jr.
Singer, songwriter, plays multiple instruments and plays them well. Has also done some acting.

I know I'll think of more after I peel my wife and daughter off the couch and we all hit the sack right about........

Now..

night night Jan.

Bruceye

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Beaverjack

05/04/2012 06:00AM

Earl Scruggs

Tony

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dicecupmaker

05/04/2012 06:28AM

Finally going to see John Prine on June 30th down in Rochester,MN. Great song writer. Lost some singing power d/t CA of the throat a few yrs ago. Have every CD of his.
Just saw Storyhill last Monday night in St.Cloud!

Joy is a great teacher, but so is dispair. Wonder is a great teacher, but so is confusion. Hope is a great teacher, but so is disillusionment. And life is a great teacher, but so is death. To deny yourself any of those in any aspect is not experiencing life totally.

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sleepnbag

05/04/2012 06:48AM

Kenny G.

"Your Word is a lamp to my feet and a light for my path." Psalm 119:105

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sleepnbag

05/04/2012 06:49AM

quote sleepnbag: "Kenny G."

...:)

"Your Word is a lamp to my feet and a light for my path." Psalm 119:105

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Basspro69

05/04/2012 07:29AM

My next door neighbor where I grew up as a kid, Prince Rogers Nelson AKA Prince p.s. He and a guy named Alexander Oneil where always at my house trying to talk to my sister Debbie .

" I want to know Gods thoughts , The rest are details " Albert Einstein.

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AndySG

05/04/2012 08:23AM

Like Dicecup, I love John Prine and have been listening to him faithfully since 1971.

But as for "all around" talent in the popular music realm, I have to go with Lyle Lovett. He writes, sings, plays, arranges, and controls every aspect of his recordings. Most of which are complex arrangements with large multi-piece bands, and no two of his songs sound the same. Just a couple of good ones below.

What Do You Do/Glory Love

Bears

Sincerely yours, Andy

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coilcove

05/04/2012 09:38AM

+1 Lyle ROCKS

If your asking for newer Musicians?
- Old Crow Medicine Show
- Hayes Carll
- Todd Snider
- Xavier Rudd
To name a few.

All time musician? John Lennon.

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AndySG

05/04/2012 09:51AM

quote coilcove: "+1 Lyle ROCKS

If your asking for newer Musicians?
- Old Crow Medicine Show
- Hayes Carll
- Todd Snider
- Xavier Rudd
To name a few."
You are speaking my language coilcove:

Ryan Bingham ( South Side of Heaven )
Mike Zito ( Slow It Down )
Chuck Prophet
John Hiatt (still cookin')
Brandi Carlisle ( The Story )

Sincerely yours, Andy

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awbrown

05/04/2012 10:32AM

Zamfir, master of the Pan Flute.
Slim Whitman.
Boxcar Willie.

Three of the best "Hurry, call 1-800-000-0000, while there is still time" musicians of all time!

Keep the open side up

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apugarcia

05/04/2012 10:37AM

Prince.

End of thread.

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cinna

05/04/2012 10:37AM

Ha! Slim Whitman and Boxcar..........no way! How about Red Sovine? awbrown you made my day. I need to download some una paloma blanca.........right now. What a gas!

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mc2mens

05/04/2012 10:58AM

Some good newer music on y IPhone:

- Andrew Bird
- Arcade Fire
- Atmosphere
- Band of Horses
- The Black Keys
- Bon Iver
- Calexico
- Dan Auerbach
- Fleet Foxes
- The Hold Steady
- Iron and Wine
- Lateduster
- Low
- M Ward
- Mason Jennings
- Mike Doughty
- Mofro
- Morcheeba
- My Morning Jacket
- The National
- Neko Case
- P J Harvey
- Ray La Montaigne
- Thievery Corporation
- The White Stripes
- Yo La Tengo
- 16 Horsepower

"Big fish eat little fish."

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nojobro

05/04/2012 11:54AM

quote apugarcia: "Prince.

End of thread."

+1

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nojobro

05/04/2012 11:54AM

kanoes, nice link. Thanks.

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Frenchy19

05/04/2012 12:21PM

Agree on the Prince call, but I also think Van Morrison deserves a nod.

"He hits from both sides of the plate. He’s amphibious." Yogi Berra

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mc2mens

05/04/2012 12:33PM

i didn't answer the question with my earlier post. i might agree with others that prince might be the most talented musician today, but i can't stand his music. don't own any of it. can't listen to it. it's too "pop"-y for me.

"Big fish eat little fish."

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snakecharmer

05/04/2012 01:36PM

It's definitely a tie between Prince and Weird Al Yankovic :)

"Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing it is not fish they are after"
~ Henry David Thoreau

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cinna

05/04/2012 01:53PM

Prince is a hell of guitarist and dancer, but can he clog and fiddle? I don' think so.

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apugarcia

05/04/2012 02:52PM

quote cinna: "Prince is a hell of guitarist and dancer, but can he clog and fiddle? I don' think so."
I'm guessing he can play the fiddle. He can play at least 25 instruments. I don't care for some of his stuff too, it's too pop 80's for my taste, but some is good.

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mr.barley

05/04/2012 06:26PM

Van Morrison gets a my vote.

Because I'm wearing one and I just did....

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overthehill

05/04/2012 07:58PM

WOW! Forgot about John Prine. Saw him live at Bogart's. Great folk writer. Paradise, Settled in the Rain, Hole in Daddy's Arm...nearly forgot. Have few cassettes somewhere....must look them up! Sorry, what century Jan? :)

Not to Hurry-Not to Worry

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pswith5

05/04/2012 08:12PM

Haven't given it much thought yet but the first thing that popped into my head(disregarding the 2010 reference) was John Lenon.

without the bad times: the good times wouldn't seem so good

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SunnyDay

05/04/2012 08:53PM

Best flutist. Ian Anderson.
Ian Anderson flute solo

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rmessner

05/04/2012 09:16PM

Didn't Aldo Nova do all instruments on his album songs and then compile everything together?

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maxxbhp

05/04/2012 09:32PM

As badly as I hate to say it, if the topic is best all-around, I gotta get on that Prince bandwagon. Not a giant Prince fan, but the little bastard can dance his ass off, holds his own with a couple of instruments, and does a little singing, too.

"Old Nashville still has a song and dance, and the Florida girls still wear no underpants. And we all get drunk at the football game, yeh the new south, thank God is still the same" Hank Williams, jr

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Basspro69

05/04/2012 10:02PM

quote cinna: "Prince is a hell of guitarist and dancer, but can he clog and fiddle? I don' think so." LMAO

" I want to know Gods thoughts , The rest are details " Albert Einstein.

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maxxbhp

05/04/2012 10:22PM

quote rmessner: "Didn't Aldo Nova do all instruments on his album songs and then compile everything together?" I know Todd Rundgren used to do that.

"Old Nashville still has a song and dance, and the Florida girls still wear no underpants. And we all get drunk at the football game, yeh the new south, thank God is still the same" Hank Williams, jr

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RainGearRight

05/04/2012 10:26PM

David Ford has an amazing video. A one man band. Its long. Watch it!

There's always money in the banana stand.

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lundojam

05/04/2012 10:32PM

My favorite balladeer (Drive All Night), rocker (Born to Run) and folk singer (Highway Patrolman) are all the same guy: Bruce Springsteen on guitar, vocals, and piano.
Chris Theil, formerly of Nickel Creek, is ungodly.

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Frenchy19

05/04/2012 10:45PM

quote mr.barley: "Van Morrison gets a my vote."

I was lucky enough to see him back in the mid 80's in St. Paul playing under a full moon (some annual summer fest, cannot recall the name). Incredible on numerous instruments, and so full of soul!!

"He hits from both sides of the plate. He’s amphibious." Yogi Berra

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togue

05/05/2012 03:37AM

Low, mc I like it. My friends band played with them when they first started out. They played gigs often at a coffee shop called urban ground in Duluth.

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BWVet

05/05/2012 07:41AM

Paul MCartney wrote some of the greatest songs in history

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mc2mens

05/05/2012 10:18AM

Radiohead's pretty talented.

"Big fish eat little fish."

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LoneWolf

05/05/2012 10:52AM

Lots of good one here. I'd like to add a few.

Eric Clapton
Buddy Guy
Bonnie Raitt
Stevie Ray Vaughan

Best live concerts by individual performers that I've been to are Buddy Guy and Ray Charles.

Best live concert festivals were the Mole Lake Great Northern Bluegrass Festivals. Bands I saw at them included Earl Scruggs (and family), Bill Monroe, John Hartford, Benny Martin, Vassar Clements, Doc and Merle Watson, Ozark Mountain Daredevils, Marshall Tucker Band, the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, New Grass Revival...

"You guys might not know this, but I consider myself a bit of a loner. I tend to think of myself as a one-man wolf pack." - Alan Garner, The Hangover.

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mr.barley

05/05/2012 02:14PM

quote Frenchy19: "quote mr.barley: "Van Morrison gets a my vote."

I was lucky enough to see him back in the mid 80's in St. Paul playing under a full moon (some annual summer fest, cannot recall the name). Incredible on numerous instruments, and so full of soul!! " You are a lucky man, Mark. My wife and I have wanted to see him for years. Last time he played in the twin cities he sold out the Target Center in a few minutes. He's currently on tour, but all dates are in Europe so far.

Because I'm wearing one and I just did....

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Quiviracabin

05/05/2012 03:09PM

Tom Petty

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boonie

05/06/2012 05:36PM

If we're talking about very talented musicians, let's give a nod to Yo-Yo Ma.

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boonie

05/06/2012 05:36PM

If we're talking about very talented musicians, let's give a nod to Yo-Yo Ma.

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Beaverjack

05/06/2012 06:03PM

Man, did we even include Bonnie Ryatt on the best guitarists thread? She's certainly up there (well ahead of Neil Young for sure).

Tony

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mc2mens

05/06/2012 07:00PM

quote Beaverjack: "Man, did we even include Bonnie Ryatt on the best guitarists thread? She's certainly up there (well ahead of Neil Young for sure)."

I mentioned her - Bonnie Raitt that is. Not sure I'd place her well ahead of Neil Young though. But hey, different strokes for different folks.

"Big fish eat little fish."

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arctic

05/06/2012 08:16PM

quote Basspro69: "My next door neighbor where I grew up as a kid, Prince Rogers Nelson AKA Prince p.s. He and a guy named Alexander Oneil where always at my house trying to talk to my sister Debbie ."

That is WAY cool. Prince is a master of his craft!!

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1stSatInMay

05/07/2012 06:54AM

"Best all aroundmusician?" How about someone like Roy Clark. I know I saw him play at least 5 different instruments well. These are the guys who amaze me. Talent with mutiple tools as opposed to being a master of one.

The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps! Eleanor Roosevelt, First Lady of the United States, 1945

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burntsider

05/07/2012 07:53AM

How do you evaluate an all-around musician? To me, an all-around musician would need all the musical skills. I'd weight those skills in this order. 1. composer 2. arranger 3. instrumentalist 4. vocalist 5. lyricist 6. performer. If you accept this scale, no musician of our time or any time comes close to Paul McCartney. For the benefit of younger readers, McCartney was a member of the Beatles, a quartet from Liverpool, UK, which flourished in the 60's. Later he formed a group called "Wings." A distant, but noteworthy second on the list would be Jeff Lynne, founder of ELO.

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mc2mens

05/07/2012 12:03PM

quote burntsider: "How do you evaluate an all-around musician? To me, an all-around musician would need all the musical skills. I'd weight those skills in this order. 1. composer 2. arranger 3. instrumentalist 4. vocalist 5. lyricist 6. performer. If you accept this scale, no musician of our time or any time comes close to Paul McCartney. For the benefit of younger readers, McCartney was a member of the Beatles, a quartet from Liverpool, UK, which flourished in the 60's. Later he formed a group called "Wings." A distant, but noteworthy second on the list would be Jeff Lynne, founder of ELO. "

I am in complete agreement!

"Big fish eat little fish."

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mc2mens

05/07/2012 12:03PM

"Big fish eat little fish."

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arctic

05/07/2012 12:45PM

In case I missed it, I would also add Duane Allman to the short list of greatest guitarists.

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snakecharmer

05/07/2012 01:05PM

quote mc2mens: "quote burntsider: "How do you evaluate an all-around musician? To me, an all-around musician would need all the musical skills. I'd weight those skills in this order. 1. composer 2. arranger 3. instrumentalist 4. vocalist 5. lyricist 6. performer. If you accept this scale, no musician of our time or any time comes close to Paul McCartney. For the benefit of younger readers, McCartney was a member of the Beatles, a quartet from Liverpool, UK, which flourished in the 60's. Later he formed a group called "Wings." A distant, but noteworthy second on the list would be Jeff Lynne, founder of ELO. "

I am in complete agreement!"
Totally.

"Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing it is not fish they are after"
~ Henry David Thoreau

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Beaverjack

05/07/2012 07:06PM

quote mc2mens: "quote Beaverjack: "Man, did we even include Bonnie Ryatt on the best guitarists thread? She's certainly up there (well ahead of Neil Young for sure)."

I mentioned her - Bonnie Raitt that is. Not sure I'd place her well ahead of Neil Young though. But hey, different strokes for different folks."

As a guitarist who has mimicked whomever my meager talent will allow since the early 70s, I can say without reservation that Bonnie Raitt's elegant slide guitar is harder to duplicate than Neil Young's three finger fret bouncing. I won't say an ape could play guitar as well as Neil Young, but if the brow fits........

Tony

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mc2mens

05/07/2012 10:18PM

quote Beaverjack: "quote mc2mens: "quote Beaverjack: "Man, did we even include Bonnie Ryatt on the best guitarists thread? She's certainly up there (well ahead of Neil Young for sure)."

I mentioned her - Bonnie Raitt that is. Not sure I'd place her well ahead of Neil Young though. But hey, different strokes for different folks."

As a guitarist who has mimicked whomever my meager talent will allow since the early 70s, I can say without reservation that Bonnie Raitt's elegant slide guitar is harder to duplicate than Neil Young's three finger fret bouncing. I won't say an ape could play guitar as well as Neil Young, but if the brow fits........ "

Hahaha - you're crackin me up BJ. He may not be great in many minds, but he's one of my favorite songwriters and I do like the way he plays. It's memorable. I can think of dozens of sounds from his guitar at any time. Cinnamon Girl, Down by the River, Heart of Gold, Cowgirl in the Sand, Sugar Mountain, Cortez the Killer, Winterlong, Comes a Time...

"Big fish eat little fish."

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RainGearRight

05/07/2012 10:36PM

quote mc2mens: "quote Beaverjack: "quote mc2mens: "quote Beaverjack: "Man, did we even include Bonnie Ryatt on the best guitarists thread? She's certainly up there (well ahead of Neil Young for sure)."

I mentioned her - Bonnie Raitt that is. Not sure I'd place her well ahead of Neil Young though. But hey, different strokes for different folks."

As a guitarist who has mimicked whomever my meager talent will allow since the early 70s, I can say without reservation that Bonnie Raitt's elegant slide guitar is harder to duplicate than Neil Young's three finger fret bouncing. I won't say an ape could play guitar as well as Neil Young, but if the brow fits........ "

Hahaha - you're crackin me up BJ. He may not be great in many minds, but he's one of my favorite songwriters and I do like the way he plays. It's memorable. I can think of dozens of sounds from his guitar at any time. Cinnamon Girl, Down by the River, Heart of Gold, Cowgirl in the Sand, Sugar Mountain, Cortez the Killer, Winterlong, Comes a Time... "
Lets not forget Ohio and Needle and the Damage.

Bonnie Raitt may play the slide but can she slide and play the Didgeridoo too?

There's always money in the banana stand.

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Beaverjack

05/08/2012 05:15AM

I didn't say I didn't like his songs. Harvest is a fine album in the folk rock genre. Some of the stuff he did with CS&N was good too. I don't think he really fit with them because of his need to punk-up from time to time. Harvest was his peak. He's been riding the wave since. Still singin' like a girl, too.

Tony

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L.T.sully

05/08/2012 10:59AM

For all around musicians I'd say Eddie Vedder deserves a nod, drummer in Nirvana, lead guitar and vocals in Pearl Jam, and a whole ukelele album.
McCartney is also a great all-rounder, in an average concert he'll play bass, guitar, and piano.

The creation of a thousand forests is in a single acorn- Ralph Waldo Emerson

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RainGearRight

05/08/2012 11:32AM

quote L.T.sully: "For all around musicians I'd say Eddie Vedder deserves a nod, drummer in Nirvana, lead guitar and vocals in Pearl Jam, and a whole ukelele album.
McCartney is also a great all-rounder, in an average concert he'll play bass, guitar, and piano. "

Dave Grohl was Nirvana's drummer. Eddie Vedder is talented but I can't understand what he is saying half the time.

There's always money in the banana stand.

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arctic

05/08/2012 12:32PM

quote mc2mens: "quote Beaverjack: "quote mc2mens: "quote Beaverjack: "Man, did we even include Bonnie Ryatt on the best guitarists thread? She's certainly up there (well ahead of Neil Young for sure)."

I mentioned her - Bonnie Raitt that is. Not sure I'd place her well ahead of Neil Young though. But hey, different strokes for different folks."

As a guitarist who has mimicked whomever my meager talent will allow since the early 70s, I can say without reservation that Bonnie Raitt's elegant slide guitar is harder to duplicate than Neil Young's three finger fret bouncing. I won't say an ape could play guitar as well as Neil Young, but if the brow fits........ "

Hahaha - you're crackin me up BJ. He may not be great in many minds, but he's one of my favorite songwriters and I do like the way he plays. It's memorable. I can think of dozens of sounds from his guitar at any time. Cinnamon Girl, Down by the River, Heart of Gold, Cowgirl in the Sand, Sugar Mountain, Cortez the Killer, Winterlong, Comes a Time... "

Neil Young is definitely one of my favorites. His guitar style could be labelled "sloppy" or "grungy", but is still masterful. Young himself never regarded himself as a great guitarist. The cool thing about the guitar is there is almost no limit to number of ways you can play it.

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mc2mens

05/08/2012 12:40PM

quote arctic: "quote mc2mens: "quote Beaverjack: "quote mc2mens: "quote Beaverjack: "Man, did we even include Bonnie Ryatt on the best guitarists thread? She's certainly up there (well ahead of Neil Young for sure)."

I mentioned her - Bonnie Raitt that is. Not sure I'd place her well ahead of Neil Young though. But hey, different strokes for different folks."

As a guitarist who has mimicked whomever my meager talent will allow since the early 70s, I can say without reservation that Bonnie Raitt's elegant slide guitar is harder to duplicate than Neil Young's three finger fret bouncing. I won't say an ape could play guitar as well as Neil Young, but if the brow fits........ "

Hahaha - you're crackin me up BJ. He may not be great in many minds, but he's one of my favorite songwriters and I do like the way he plays. It's memorable. I can think of dozens of sounds from his guitar at any time. Cinnamon Girl, Down by the River, Heart of Gold, Cowgirl in the Sand, Sugar Mountain, Cortez the Killer, Winterlong, Comes a Time... "

Neil Young is definitely one of my favorites. His guitar style could be labelled "sloppy" or "grungy", but is still masterful. Young himself never regarded himself as a great guitarist. The cool thing about the guitar is there is almost no limit to number of ways you can play it."

Good point - grunge guitar. Pearl Jam credits Neil Young for inspiring the band in Cameron Crowes Pearl Jam 20 documentary.

"Big fish eat little fish."

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mc2mens

05/08/2012 12:44PM

quote L.T.sully: "For all around musicians I'd say Eddie Vedder deserves a nod, drummer in Nirvana, lead guitar and vocals in Pearl Jam, and a whole ukelele album.
McCartney is also a great all-rounder, in an average concert he'll play bass, guitar, and piano. "

I agree Luke - big Eddie Vedder fan here. Talented songwriter, instrumentalist and performer.

"Big fish eat little fish."

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ekffazr

05/08/2012 01:33PM

Dream Theater

this thread can now be closed

:)

He, who would give up freedom for security, then neither deserves nor will receive either. -- Ben Franklin

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bogiemsn

05/08/2012 03:48PM

Best Guitarist: Eric Clapton
Best Show: Neil Young & Crazy Horse
Best All around: ?

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