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tremolo

03/12/2012 06:36AM

a zre power surge paddle. Banksiana advised my purchase. Thanks again Banks for steering me to great gear.

What is next? A solo canoe? Yes, I think so. Celebrating turning 50 and almost being divorced.

What is the best solo canoe for me?

I am looking for a Whisper, but I think there were only 20 or so made so that might be a long shot. Other considerations are Advantage, Magic, and what else?

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mooseplums

03/12/2012 11:00AM

A Magic or an Advantage would be a nice choice. Go for it!

"I am haunted by waters"~Norman Maclean "A River Runs Through It"

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AndySG

03/12/2012 02:10PM

I believe the Souris River Tranquility is worth taking a hard look at. I know I would. Link

Sincerely yours, Andy

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Sierra1

03/12/2012 02:29PM

Maybe you may also want to look at a Prism if you want a flat water traveling canoe. I use a Rockstar but that's because it fits me well and I like the capacity...

Watch out for that rock!!!........ Oooo.... That's going to leave a mark...

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kanoes

03/12/2012 02:37PM

imo prisms and rockstars are bigger persons solos. a kev vagabond or wilderness would be worth a look.

i think bigfoot is blurry. (mitch hedberg...youtube it))

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tremolo

03/12/2012 03:39PM

quote AndySG: "I believe the Souris River Tranquility is worth taking a hard look at. I know I would. Link "

Thanks for the link and tip. I read some reviews. Light and fast and tracks straight. Definitely worth a look. Now if only one of these would turn up on Craigslist.

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luft

03/12/2012 05:04PM

Hey Molo- I emailed you some links to look at regarding Souris canoe(s).

A new solo sounds like the perfect birthday gift to yourself!

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Curmudgeon

03/12/2012 05:11PM

I bet an Advantage would fit you just right.

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fitgers1

03/12/2012 07:23PM

Mad River Independence y'all!!

“What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.” Ralph Waldo Emerson...and...“Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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ZaraSp00k

03/12/2012 10:51PM

you need a Savage River Blackwater to go with your paddle

otherwise an Advantage

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tremolo

03/13/2012 02:52AM

quote ZaraSp00k: "you need a Savage River Blackwater to go with your paddle

otherwise an Advantage"

The Blackwater looks beautiful, but 17'...

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OneMatch

03/13/2012 10:58AM

quote tremolo: "quote ZaraSp00k: "you need a Savage River Blackwater to go with your paddle

otherwise an Advantage"

The Blackwater looks beautiful, but 17'... "

An Advantage is 16' 6"

We all have to believe in something. I believe I'll go paddle.

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tremolo

03/13/2012 11:46AM

quote OneMatch: "quote tremolo: "quote ZaraSp00k: "you need a Savage River Blackwater to go with your paddle

otherwise an Advantage"

The Blackwater looks beautiful, but 17'... "

An Advantage is 16' 6" "

yes it is

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whitecedar

03/13/2012 11:48AM

Advantage, a sweet solo which is often ignored because Wenonah classifies it as a "racing" hull, but it is much more than just that!

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Sierra1

03/13/2012 12:49PM

quote kanoes: "imo prisms and rockstars are bigger persons solos. a kev vagabond or wilderness would be worth a look."

+1 on the Wilderness

Watch out for that rock!!!........ Oooo.... That's going to leave a mark...

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tremolo

03/13/2012 01:28PM

Wilderness does look like worth a look mod def. Thanks.

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spottedowl

03/13/2012 02:01PM

Prisms & Advantages are kinda big boats. I'm thinking you'll feel better with something shorter. Although I wouldn't trade my Prism for anything. How exciting- get a Wenonah catalog and you won't be disappointed. And then paint a psychedelic pastel hued mural on each side.

swimming upstream makes you stronger

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mr.barley

03/13/2012 02:34PM

I have an Advantage AND a Magic. I bought rlhedlund's amok benefit Magic last fall and didn't get to paddle more than an hour in it since I got it after Halloween. I'vbe taken my Advantage on at least 5 trips so far and it's a great solo tripper. My problem is which one to keep. I really like my Advantage, but I haven't gotten to paddle the Magic on a trip yet to see which one I prefer. I will eventually sell one of them.

Because I'm wearing one and I just did....

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tremolo

03/13/2012 07:53PM

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Banksiana

03/14/2012 12:15AM

Spottedowl- the Advantage is long but quite slender, not a big boat, feels noticeably smaller than the Prism.

Steal a little and they throw you in jail. Steal a lot and they make you king.

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boonie

03/14/2012 03:56AM

The Rockstar and Wilderness have almost identical "specs", although the Rockstar has differential rocker that the Wilderness doesn't. Otherwise, I don't think there'd be much difference, although I haven't paddled a Wilderness. I rented a Rockstar last fall and it worked well for me, although I think I still prefer the Magic.

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mr.barley

03/17/2012 01:27AM

quote tremolo: "quote mr.barley: "I have an Advantage AND a Magic. I bought rlhedlund's amok benefit Magic last fall and didn't get to paddle more than an hour in it since I got it after Halloween. I'vbe taken my Advantage on at least 5 trips so far and it's a great solo tripper. My problem is which one to keep. I really like my Advantage, but I haven't gotten to paddle the Magic on a trip yet to see which one I prefer. I will eventually sell one of them. "

Please let me know!!!!!!!!!!!!" Bobbwca has first dibs if I sell the Advantage. I'll let you know how that goes.

Because I'm wearing one and I just did....

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1stSatInMay

03/17/2012 03:03AM

quote mr.barley: "I have an Advantage AND a Magic. I bought rlhedlund's amok benefit Magic last fall and didn't get to paddle more than an hour in it since I got it after Halloween. I'vbe taken my Advantage on at least 5 trips so far and it's a great solo tripper. My problem is which one to keep. I really like my Advantage, but I haven't gotten to paddle the Magic on a trip yet to see which one I prefer. I will eventually sell one of them. "

Mr. B, if you'd gotten the Advantage in red, there wouldn't be any choice. Everyone knows red canoes are just faster.

I have a Kevlar Advantage and love it. On group trip with a couple tandems and my Advantage, there is high demand to paddle the Advantage.

The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps! Eleanor Roosevelt, First Lady of the United States, 1945

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KarlBAndersen1

03/17/2012 09:31AM

quote tremolo: "
What is the best solo canoe for me?
"

The "best" solo canoe is the one you build yourself! Get a cedar strip kit or plans and make your own.

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Wables

03/17/2012 11:11AM

quote KarlBAndersen1: "quote tremolo: "
What is the best solo canoe for me?
"

The "best" solo canoe is the one you build yourself! Get a cedar strip kit or plans and make your own."

+1. My 38 Special is about 3 weeks away from fiberglass.

"Hold on, I think I can get in without getting my feet wet."....SPLASH...

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tremolo

03/18/2012 04:04PM

quote Wables: "quote KarlBAndersen1: "quote tremolo: "
What is the best solo canoe for me?
"

The "best" solo canoe is the one you build yourself! Get a cedar strip kit or plans and make your own."

+1. My 38 Special is about 3 weeks away from fiberglass. "

Explain.

Yeah, building my own-- how much does cedar weigh and what makes it better than kevlar? Just askin. I have a very open mind and no limit on time. I want to find or make a boat for now and forever.

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Wables

03/18/2012 06:14PM

quote tremolo: "quote Wables: "quote KarlBAndersen1: "quote tremolo: "
What is the best solo canoe for me?
"

The "best" solo canoe is the one you build yourself! Get a cedar strip kit or plans and make your own."

+1. My 38 Special is about 3 weeks away from fiberglass. "

Explain.

Yeah, building my own-- how much does cedar weigh and what makes it better than kevlar? Just askin. I have a very open mind and no limit on time. I want to find or make a boat for now and forever."

Here is my take on cedar boats.

Pro's:
1) Cedar strip boats are gorgeous. To me, they look nicer than any other boat out there.
2) They are relatively cheap. Once you have the tools, you can turn them out for about $700 with good quality materials.
3) The possibilities for designs are endless. You can choose a design and tweak the hull shape, make decisions on materials to compromise between weight and durability, customize seating arrangements, etc.
4) Paddling cedar boats is different than kevlar. They are stiffer, so they feel different. I like the feel of cedar much better.
5) Building them is a very relaxing hobby. For me, it is my hour and a half of "me" time in the evenings.
6) They are maintainable. If you built it, you can fix anything on it.

Con's:
1) You WILL end up building more than one. It is an addicting hobby, so you better have room in the garage.
2) It is difficult to test drive a design before you build it.
3) They are heavier than kevlar. My big tripper weighs 62#. My little two seater is 50#. My solo should come in somewhere in the low 40's. They could be made lighter, but it is a compromise.
4) They are more difficult to sell later on if you don't like what you build.

Hope this helps.

"Hold on, I think I can get in without getting my feet wet."....SPLASH...

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tremolo

03/20/2012 10:24AM

quote Wables: "quote tremolo: "quote Wables: "quote KarlBAndersen1: "quote tremolo: "
What is the best solo canoe for me?
"

The "best" solo canoe is the one you build yourself! Get a cedar strip kit or plans and make your own."

+1. My 38 Special is about 3 weeks away from fiberglass. "

Explain.

Yeah, building my own-- how much does cedar weigh and what makes it better than kevlar? Just askin. I have a very open mind and no limit on time. I want to find or make a boat for now and forever."

Here is my take on cedar boats.

Pro's:
1) Cedar strip boats are gorgeous. To me, they look nicer than any other boat out there.
2) They are relatively cheap. Once you have the tools, you can turn them out for about $700 with good quality materials.
3) The possibilities for designs are endless. You can choose a design and tweak the hull shape, make decisions on materials to compromise between weight and durability, customize seating arrangements, etc.
4) Paddling cedar boats is different than kevlar. They are stiffer, so they feel different. I like the feel of cedar much better.
5) Building them is a very relaxing hobby. For me, it is my hour and a half of "me" time in the evenings.
6) They are maintainable. If you built it, you can fix anything on it.

Con's:
1) You WILL end up building more than one. It is an addicting hobby, so you better have room in the garage.
2) It is difficult to test drive a design before you build it.
3) They are heavier than kevlar. My big tripper weighs 62#. My little two seater is 50#. My solo should come in somewhere in the low 40's. They could be made lighter, but it is a compromise.
4) They are more difficult to sell later on if you don't like what you build.

Hope this helps."

Yes, thanks. The weight factor is a deal breaker for me. But it's good to know. They are beautiful boats. Karen

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