Single malt scotch and filtered lake water in the evening after supper thank you. Most of the guys in my group have a similar mixture you described. A few had so much of the vodka tang mixture that when we got back from a week in the bdub, they ordered vodka/tangs with no ice at Cranberries!
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Bags of wine work nicely. A buddy of mine brought a few bags on last year's trip and I did nothing but make fun of him for it. That was until I decided to have a cup full. They are easy to pack and are fairly durable, the white wine bags seemed to be more flimsy but the red wine bags are strong. You can also blow up the bag to use as a pillow if you choose : )
Nothing beats a nalgene bottle filled to the brim with 'ron diaz' clear rum and a splash of tang (for color). Sitting around a campfire with some buddies talking about the days events is a true vacation. The first person to pass-out usually receives proper treatment. Franzia wine is the energy drink of choice.
You can't beat orange pineapple tang for breakfast. Hard to find though, I have only found it at one store in the twin cities. During the day Wyler's light cool raspberry is great for flavoring ffiltered lake water. At night relaxing by the fire a nice shot or two of Butter shots or E&J VSOP brandy. Makes for sweet dreams
I don't drink much booze up there but am known to dabble. One thing I really enjoy is Coffee with a splash of Kalua and Tequila mixed in.
I have brought some red wine up in the past and have enjoyed that. My heavier drinking campmates just bring a couple lemons and get to it.
While we do not drink that much, it is nice to sit around the fire in the evening and have a nice cup of Irish Creme Coffee with a dash of Amarula in it... very relaxing and helps you drift right off to sleep...
Good Paddling, Great Fishing, and God Bless All...
Congratulations Fishguts... I don't think I would have one either in that situation... We rarely do, we had a bottle of champange when we got married back in mid-december and that has been it for me since then... I have grown to find that it is not necessary to have a good time or to solve problems... I can have a great time and never worry and feel good about myself... the good Lord helps me in all I do... We all appreciate your honesty!!
Good Paddling, Great Fishing, and God Bless All...
There seemed to be a little too much Whoop about the booze. I remember the times of worrying if we had enough...running out...becoming a real obsession, a deterrent to the enjoyment of the trip. It became a real problem for me. Moderation for those that can handle it, abstinence for those of us who can't.
Crystal Lite individual flavor packs, tea(cold), lemonade(measure it for water bottles then pack in snack size baggies), hot chocolate for evening and cold mornings, and individual serving coffee packets for those that drink it. No alcohol needed if you travel with the right crew --- although I'm sure others who may have heard one of our laughing fits may have thought we had something to drink.
Happy paddling to all!!
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I do the Scout and the "civilian" trips, so I have alcohol and nonalcohol choices:
Possibly the best invention in the last 100 years for camping - Lipton Cold Brew Tea. It's brewed tea from bags (we've looked at it magnified to see how it works; it looks like it's just milled much finer than regular bag tea). It brews in cold filtered lake water in 2 minutes, and I can get 2 cups from each bag. I never go on any camping trip without it.
For the alcohol inclined - wine in 5 Liter boxes. You can't keep it real cold, but... you can burn the box and pack out the bladder. My limited experience with bears in camp indicates that the vinyl bladders are utterly bear proof. I occasionally see 3 liter boxes, if 5 is too much for you.
BWCA trip is a real treat for me.......and alcohol is something that I spend some money on, Blanton's with a shot of lime juice and lake water, that with a fine cigar can't be beat at the end of the day around a fire with good fellowship/conversation.
I make a Russian tea that is my favorite. Hot in the morning and cold in the evening. Of course, I drink a lot of filtered lake water throughout the day. Not much interest in hauling alcohol with me, would rather travel that much lighter. I have to admit that a cold beer tastes pretty good on the way home from a trip!
I personally like hot chocolate at night just before I'm about to go to bed. Although one year I did have a problem with this. I had a cup of near boiling water. As I tried to get the hot chocolate packet open I set the cup of hot water on my lap (not smart.) It tipped over, and I ended up getting a bit of a blister on an embarrassing spot...
P.S. I'm underage so alcohol isn't an option for me.
Mark - I agree with that! As far as having a cold beer goes, has anyone going in either early or late in the season ever tried bringing in some of those plastic beer bottles? I was kind of toying w/ the idea, but keep getting stuck at the part where I'd be lugging around empty plastic beer bottles for 6 days.....
I've thought about those plastic bottles. The liquor stores in Ely advertise them. I've never bought any, so I don't know - are they crushable? I don't think they'd weigh a lot empty. I do know it's illegal to burn plastic in MN so you'd have to pack them out. 2 years ago I was base camped with my wife down the Kawishiwi from Lake One and we heard a lot of hootin' and hollerin'... I hiked down past the latrine to the other side of the island and saw a group of 8 twenty-something Neanderthals on a beer-drinking expedition. Each rental kevlar canoe had a big cooler full of MGD in plastic on ice, and the paddlers were already hammered. They were going where the water flowed (apparently to skip the portage, which was on the side with the campsite) so I wonder how the rest of their trip went!
I second fishguts! Although, I do LOVE a good beer and a bourbon. My trip this year will be an alcohol free trip. I grew up (and still live) in an old German community in South/central MN. New Ulm (my town) is home of the second oldest family owned brewery in the United States. I, as well well as many Ulmers, was raised on the various products of the August Schell Brewing Co.. I guess it's just better (for me) to go without than to run out. To each his own!
I make my own hot cocoa mix: 1 can of cocoa, 1 jar of coffee creamer, 1 8-qt box of instant milk, 1 lb of powdered sugar, 1 lb of regular sugar.
This makes a large amount of mix, enough for the family for the winter. I just put some into a quart-size Ziploc bag for the trip. Use 2-3 tbs per cup of boiling water.
Also make my own "Bailey's Irish Cream" for the adults. 1 pt of half/half, 1 1/2 or so cups whiskey (I go for the real stuff, Jameson), 1 can sweetened condensed milk, 3 eggs, 1 tsp vanilla, 3-4 tbs chocolate syrup. Put all into a blender and mix well. This makes a little over a quart. As long as it's pretty cool it will keep, otherwise it is best downed the first and second night.
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In the past I have been known to sip on a little single malt Glenlivet or brandy but I pretty much stick to water and coffee. I am not affected much by caffeine and so I tend to have coffee at sunrise, fill a thermos for the day, and then a fresh pot for starfall - till my pipe goes out...
I hauled a party pack of 18 Coors lite (plastic bottles) on ice up to nest lake in the Q. My idea so I carried the load over all portages. Took a lot of crap for bringing it. Everyone thought it was a waste of space in the pack, until we set up camp. What could be better than ice cold beer and a nice rib eye steak on your first nite in the great north woods. We had to settle for lemonade and vodka for the rest of the trip.
i like hot coffee in the am, the new coffee bags are the easiest,plain filtered lake water during the day and then coffee with a splash of black label to take the lumps out of the air mattress, one or two shots is enough,I don't need a hangover in the morning to start the day off wrong.
Hey maddog, I also live in the fine town of New Ulm. I do partake in my share of August Schell products but I mainly drink beer that I brew in my back yard. I usually don't drink in the BWCA anymore. It's my week of purification and oneness with nature and all that crap.
By the way maddog, I hear Schell is going to start bottling some of their products in plastic. As much as I hate the idea, it sure would be nice to bring in a bottle of plastic beer for supper each night.
Try this - On your first day in be sure to pack a plastic bottle of Mountain Dew Code Red. Try a 24 ounce bottle if there are more than two or you. Freeze the Code Red solid before you leave and pack it so it stays frozen for the most part. Be sure to also pack some Whiskey (we prefer Canadian Hunter just because of the outdoorsy name of that brand). After you get all settled in on your first night, break out the frozen Code Red which might be like slush by now. Mix in the amount of sipping whiskey you prefer, sit back and just say Ahhhhhh!
I love those Crystal lite packets, and tang. Coffee in the morning, plain water if pushing hard all day. Knobb Creek out of a Sigg bottle around the fire. Not too much though, early mornings in the BWCA are some of the best anywhere on Earth.
I dont drink when I'm up in the boundary waters. When not in the boundary waters I drink beer like its going out of style. I am also an avid-homebrewer and order most of my ingredients/equipment from Northern Brewer!
Is that something someone can take with them into the boundary waters or just a delicous treat to enjoy in Duluth? If you and your brewing company can come up with a way to feasibly get beer in there being ecologically friendly and packing effiencient, you'll have to let the rest of us know how you do it.
As for us....Use the bagged wine as previously mentioned, then remove the spout and fill with favority treat, lemonade and vodka, or whatever, sink with a rock and your drink of choice is relatively cool and the entire camp can partake.
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picture this. fly-in trip. float plane lands to drop us off and pick up a couple guys on their way out. guy wades out to the plane as it is idling in towards shore, prop still spinning. i open the door and say "hello, how ya doin?" not one for small talk, the guy immediately cuts right to the heart of the matter and asks "you guys got any extra booze?" naive me, thinking the guy was wading chest deep to help with the plane. nah, we didn't have any extra booze.
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I find Port to be my favorite BWCA booze. A little bit like wine, a little bit like brandy, and a little bit sweet for an after dinner drink. Plus it keeps well in a Nalgene, and you don't mind if its warm. Mmmm...booze.
Even on a steamy July day, there's nothing like a little nip of the ol' Canada (whiskey) to keep the motors running - and things in perspective.
Each guy brings a pint and when his is gone, it's gone.
The water's not bad, either. :)
"So what do you guys do up there? There's nothing to do up there."
While I'm a fan of the vodka lemonade, I've found a new girly drink. Raspberry Ice Tea with vodka and if you can find them fresh raspberries. Loved it last year in the b-dub and am excited to enjoy this year if the wildfires will allow us. Of course we had the Franzia bladder and the men had their scotch. Enjoy!
Anyone who packs in more than a six pack has got some issues.
I have enjoyed hot cocoa (nestle's double chocolate meltdown) with a splash or two of yukon jack = tootsie roll. Also, 12 y/o single malt Scotch like Glenlivit with cool lake water, or Korbel brandy. All are nice to sip beside an evening campfire.
just to clarify the packaging that these growlers come in is a 1/2 gallon "nalgene" (the same material that most of screwtop water bottles are made out of). it works quite well as a base camp potable water container as it is compatible with most water filters (if it will fit on narrow mouth screwtops it will fit on this). of course pack out what you pack in, but I've found it quite useful around camp at the very least.
Just wanted to add my 2 cents. When we do our annual "Golf on Ice" day in Pine City we add a shot of butterscotch schnapps to our hot chocolate! Well, actually we dump a bunch in our thermos of hot chocolate but you get the just. Will probably try that for our trip if we have the weight room! YUM!
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Drink of choice during the day is filtered water, maybe Gatorade if the water is not clear. During the evening is is VSOP cognac on the rocks.
If I can avoid it I do not want to ruin the water with anything. And why ruin a good cognac?
We never have brought alcohol up, but on one of our last trips my brother and I started talking about how nice an ice cold margarita would have tasted.
We do bring lots of gatorade mix, and apple cider which we usually have (hot) at night while relaxing around the fire.
We save the empty gatorade containers and use them for our coffee, apple cider, flour, etc. They wok great and pack well in our food packs.
One of my operations is in Ellijay; an underground limestone mine. I'll have to check out the local brew next time I get down there. I'm in the Apple Capital of Virginia with orchards for White House cider and Musselman. Maybe I can use the recipe.
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Give me a shout next time on the board and I will plan to arrange a tasting party. IE a mason jar in the floor board of my 4x4 pickup with the gun rack in the back and the go Dawgs license plate holder..
BTW can the Hokies hang with the big Dawgs in the Dome on the 30th?
We also brought Ron Diaz and 100 proof vodka. 6 1.75 liters to be exact. What do you expect it was our first trip we were idiots. Anyway's one of our friends ended up have a bit too much fun, lets just say 5 of us had to sleep in a 2 person tent because the big tent was filled with puke.
My two favorites are Cocoa Jerry's and Bounderitavilles
Cocoa Jerry: great around the campfire
-4 oz. Crown Royal (my personal preference) or other good whisky
-add 4-5 single serving packages of cocoa mix
-then fill the rest of a 1 liter bottle with hot filtered lake water --shake well
share with good friends (non-friends are on their own)
Bounderitaville: great anytime
-4 oz. good tequilla (made from 100% blue agave) in a 1 liter bottle
-add Tang (my personal preference) or orange Kool-Aid
-fill the rest of the bottle with filtered lake water.
This is a great dink for a hot day. It'll also take the burn away from between the shoulder blades after a hard day of paddling.
Our group usually doesn't drink a ton while in the wilderness but there are a few things that I have really come to enjoy while talking around the fire. A nice cognac or some schnapps. Peppermint and rootbeer are my favorites, usually in the 100 proof variety. I would DEFIANTLY advocate not getting too liquored up for 2 reasons. First it is no fun to get up and paddle and portage in the sun all day when you're hung over. Second, it is a safety concern. If you get all drunk and wipe out that could mean not only an end to your fun on the trip, but the fun of everyone in your group as they have to get you back out. Just some thoughts.
Place a couple of rocks and the beer in a mesh bag tied off with 50 or 75 feet of rope. Wing it out from camp into the deepest hole you can find. Wait a couple of hours then retrieve. It's not frosty, but it will put a good chill into it. Enjoy!
"Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing it is not fish they are after" ~ Henry David Thoreau
I am in the same camp as mattbrome. We usually have an after dinner nip or two - most of the time it's really good scotch. As we all know...alcohol will dehydrate you and that's not something I want to deal with in the B-dub. Not many people drink enough plain water as it is and then they add on a bunch of alcohol. Not good.
This one is can be dangerous, especially after a long day on the water.
Smirnoff lemon twist and lemonade
Any ratio depending on what you are feeling. Brother had too much one night feel into the lake, and then proceeded to kick a rock and rip the skin off of his little toe.
Enjoy, Drink Responsibly
definently bring a variety for cold drinks if you can. energy-c usually in the health food section, although not a health food but it comes in single serving multi packs and a few flavors. something different and highly recommended.
as for alcohol definently hot chocolate and 100 proof schnappes, concentrated pink lemonade and raspberry vodka is a favorite for many
A RECIPE FOR THE TRULY BRAVE:
our group has dreadfully carried out this tradition for five years.
on our last nite we mix all leftover alcohol from day 1 and all remaining drink mixes in a coffeehouse to go coffee bag and stand around the fire and sip it down, and every year it contains mostly the same ingredients ;
vodka with garden raspberries soaking in it.
maybe a little butter
shake it up and youve got yourself a manstral moose.
I like the Crystal Light sugar free single-serve packs, especially the ice tea. One packet mixes in a 16 0z Nalgene, two for a quart. Much easier than trying to measure from a bulk bag. We go through lots on a trip, but as it is sugar free it is very light. Wild Turkey 100 proof and lake water for happy hour. And of course, coffee in the morning (and sometimes afternoon). Black and strong.
"The trouble with the world isn't that people know too little, but that they know so much that just ain't so."
For me its strait bourbon or scotch. I bring a 750 and it lasts the week. My friends become alot closer friends(much to my dismay) on the last night when I'll share whats left. The nalgene growlers are sweet if you can bring them. Brought one a couple years ago, it was gone before I could even finish my first glass. Everyone loved it.
quote Savage Voyageur: "Wow a thread brought back from 7 years ago! I bring a large flask of Jim Beam Black Cheery Red Stag Bourbon. Just the thing around the fire after a long day. " I just tried that a couple of weeks ago. That stuff is great. Do you drink yours straight or do you mix it?
quote Tony: "quote Savage Voyageur: "Wow a thread brought back from 7 years ago! I bring a large flask of Jim Beam Black Cheery Red Stag Bourbon. Just the thing around the fire after a long day. " I just tried that a couple of weeks ago. That stuff is great. Do you drink yours straight our do you mix it?
tony" Hey Tony, I drink this stuff straight up most of the time. I tastes good on it's own. The trouble is I run out of it because everyone else starts to like it too. I need a larger flask. At home my wife likes me to add some sweet vermouth and a cherry when making Manhattans.
filter Lake Water good coffee made with a french press single malt scotch
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Hey Mark Lawyer, take that bag of wine, toss it in a good mesh bag, add a couple smooth rocks, tie it shut. Now sink it to the bottom a little ways off shore for a couple hours. Comes out nice and cool, perfect wine temp.
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For non alcoholic drinks I usually bring gatorade powder in either blue, red, or yellow flavors. I don't bring a whole lot of it and when I run out, well then I'm just drinking straight lake water. I usually conserve it for travel days when I'll need the electrolytes. In the mornings I like hot chocolate or tea with some honey. I bring the honey packets you get at McD's or similar. For my alcohol its usually scotch or canadian whiskey. Traveling with a perosn of similar drink tastes is helpful so that we can bring several kinds of scotch or C. whiskey.
This year I'm trying something new. Saki. Japanese fishermen drink it hot on cold stormy nights at sea. I like the taste and it should go well with the asian style fish we do occassionally. Its also just to break the routine of scotch. I like variety :)
Hot Chocolate is the best in the bwca. No beers in 40 years. Never acquired taste for it and cost a factor early on. Some drink at weddings but that is it and glass usually is half full at end of nite with no refills.
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I normally bring a 1.75L of Raspberry smirnoff vodka and premade Blue rapsberry lemonade Kool-aid. Taste just like a Bomb-pop (popsicle)! Although I am starting to lean away from the premade powdered kool-aids just to reduce weight.
hot coco with a splash of spearmint schnapps is great in the morning. our mainstay is vodka-tang. this year i tryed something new, in flask vodka/tia marie/baileys....oh i bring a solid block of ice i only have to carry it one-way.