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12/06/2013 02:45PM
So for those of that have been tripping for a while, we kinda fall into some ruts and use the same gear year after year. I know I do. What do you consider the most beneficial upgrade you've made after years of using the same old thing?
We used the kaytadyn gravity filter and loved it, until it started clothing... Now I'm building a Sawyer one that I can back flush, really looking forward to not having to pump!
We used the kaytadyn gravity filter and loved it, until it started clothing... Now I'm building a Sawyer one that I can back flush, really looking forward to not having to pump!
“Get up, stand up, Stand up for your rights. Get up, stand up, Don't give up the fight.” ------- Bob Marley "The man who doesn't read good books has no advantage over the man who can't read them. ----- Mark Twain, American writer and Freemason
12/06/2013 03:08PM
My own bending branches paddle - no idea before I got it how much of a difference it makes. A CCS deluxe food pack with their stuff sack set designed for it. My Exped DLX9. Add my MSR dragon fly to replace whisperlight - because I like to cook - not just warm edible food.
12/06/2013 03:27PM
For canoe tripping it would be a Kevlar Canoe hands down. That upgrade has yielded the greatest cut in weight and subsequently expanded the travel range and overall comfort at the end of the day.
For wilderness travel in general I would have to say a PLB was the most important upgrade I've made. Hard to beat peace of mind.
Everything else has meant smaller improvements in weight &/ comfort and don't really contribute quite as much to improving the overall experience.
For wilderness travel in general I would have to say a PLB was the most important upgrade I've made. Hard to beat peace of mind.
Everything else has meant smaller improvements in weight &/ comfort and don't really contribute quite as much to improving the overall experience.
"Wilderness is not a luxury but a necessity of the human spirit."
12/06/2013 03:56PM
Three recent upgrades that have significantly cut weight and bulk for me:
Synthetic sleeping bag replaced with a down bag.
Thermarest TrailPro Lite pad replaced with the Exped UL Basic.
Thermarest foam Pillow replaced with Exped inflatable pillow.
Synthetic sleeping bag replaced with a down bag.
Thermarest TrailPro Lite pad replaced with the Exped UL Basic.
Thermarest foam Pillow replaced with Exped inflatable pillow.
12/06/2013 04:00PM
Kevlar canoe, Exped Synmat 7 sleeping pad, CCS Pioneer packs.
"Keep close to Nature's heart, yourself; and break clear away, once in a while, and climb a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean." ~ John Muir
12/06/2013 05:36PM
Northwind over QT17.
Magic over Tranquility.
Carbon over wood paddles.
Hammock over tent.
Jetboil over every other stove that I have used.
Warmlite Down Air Mat over all other pads (when I do use a tent).
They're all huge improvements so it's hard to say which was the biggest improvement.
Magic over Tranquility.
Carbon over wood paddles.
Hammock over tent.
Jetboil over every other stove that I have used.
Warmlite Down Air Mat over all other pads (when I do use a tent).
They're all huge improvements so it's hard to say which was the biggest improvement.
“The more you know, the less you carry” Mors Kochanski
12/06/2013 06:19PM
Over the last 5 years
Rapidfire over the Magic – Lighter, faster, easier to handle in wind and the big fish tow me around more.
Lumix DMC-Zs20 over a mid-size digital – Fits in a dry bag that fits in my shirt pocket, takes better pictures, lighter
Warbonnet and superfly over tent. Better rest, easier to stand up.
Rapidfire over the Magic – Lighter, faster, easier to handle in wind and the big fish tow me around more.
Lumix DMC-Zs20 over a mid-size digital – Fits in a dry bag that fits in my shirt pocket, takes better pictures, lighter
Warbonnet and superfly over tent. Better rest, easier to stand up.
The question of the day is Freedom or Socialism?? MagicPaddler
12/06/2013 07:53PM
EXPED Downmat 7 from Thermarest
CCS tarp from Walmart tarp
CCS Guide/Pioneer and GG Nimbus from traditional Duluth canoe packs
Wildwood bent shaft paddle from Bending branched special
Souris River Quetico 18.5 Le Tigre from aluminum canoe
CCS tarp from Walmart tarp
CCS Guide/Pioneer and GG Nimbus from traditional Duluth canoe packs
Wildwood bent shaft paddle from Bending branched special
Souris River Quetico 18.5 Le Tigre from aluminum canoe
12/06/2013 08:21PM
1) Exped downmat 9 from Thermarest...biggest surprise. Increased m trip enjoyment.
2) SR17 Kevlar from Winnona Spirit fiberglass... Drastic improvement but expected.
3). Blue barrel from std food pack...I hated spending time/energy in hanging. Love stashing. May bears never catch on! RIP big blue.
2) SR17 Kevlar from Winnona Spirit fiberglass... Drastic improvement but expected.
3). Blue barrel from std food pack...I hated spending time/energy in hanging. Love stashing. May bears never catch on! RIP big blue.
12/06/2013 08:33PM
Two things that have definitely increased my enjoyment of my trips:
17' Wenonah Kevlar canoe at 42 lbs...portages are more fun
A Platypus gravity water filter instead of any pump system. We simply turn the system upside down and backflush several ounces each time we use it and it just keeps on working perfectly.
17' Wenonah Kevlar canoe at 42 lbs...portages are more fun
A Platypus gravity water filter instead of any pump system. We simply turn the system upside down and backflush several ounces each time we use it and it just keeps on working perfectly.
12/06/2013 09:04PM
Assuming that you rent your canoe and paddles from an outfitter like I do... or that you're talking about something that's less expensive than a canoe.
By far, the best equipment upgrade I have made for both canoeing and backpacking was my Big Agnes Lost Ranger down sleeping bag. It's smaller and lighter than my old bag, and far roomier allowing me to toss and turn as my old creaky bones need. I sleep WAY better, and therefore am far less cranky in the mornings.
If a canoe is part of this conversation, then I agree that a kevlar canoe is the way to go.
By far, the best equipment upgrade I have made for both canoeing and backpacking was my Big Agnes Lost Ranger down sleeping bag. It's smaller and lighter than my old bag, and far roomier allowing me to toss and turn as my old creaky bones need. I sleep WAY better, and therefore am far less cranky in the mornings.
If a canoe is part of this conversation, then I agree that a kevlar canoe is the way to go.
12/06/2013 09:30PM
Not hanging food packs (no new gear involved in this one, just common sense), all Exped mats (new downmat 9 just delivered today!!), down quilt versus bag and any paddle other than a Whiskey Jack.
"The future ain't what it used to be" Yogi Berra
12/06/2013 09:48PM
Clark NX 150 Hammock.
Every bit as comfortable as my own personal bed at home.
And that's the truth.
And no more tent sites needed. All I need is two trees - anywhere.
With my bottom quilt, I'm warm and toasty down to around 15 degrees.
Every bit as comfortable as my own personal bed at home.
And that's the truth.
And no more tent sites needed. All I need is two trees - anywhere.
With my bottom quilt, I'm warm and toasty down to around 15 degrees.
12/06/2013 10:37PM
Best overall: Sealine dry bag packs to Knupak portaging packs. Too bad they are not available anymore but they made portaging comfortable for me and enabled us to single portage while still being able to see.
Second best overall: hanging a food pack to Ursacks
Most recent: iodine to Sawyer gravity filter.
Best before that: Thermarest to BA and Exped inflatable pads.
Didn't have to upgrade: we had Zaveral paddles on our first trip.
Second best overall: hanging a food pack to Ursacks
Most recent: iodine to Sawyer gravity filter.
Best before that: Thermarest to BA and Exped inflatable pads.
Didn't have to upgrade: we had Zaveral paddles on our first trip.
12/06/2013 11:28PM
Dragonfly stove.
Silt prefilter (MSR sweetwater silt filter will work with any brand) saves clogging filters
MERINO WOOL even on (especially on) the hottest day.
Picardarin instead of DEET
My own personal "comfort yoke". Made of wood and a dense foam contoured pad that covers both my shoulders and around the back of the neck.
Silt prefilter (MSR sweetwater silt filter will work with any brand) saves clogging filters
MERINO WOOL even on (especially on) the hottest day.
Picardarin instead of DEET
My own personal "comfort yoke". Made of wood and a dense foam contoured pad that covers both my shoulders and around the back of the neck.
12/07/2013 12:27AM
Sawyer gravity filter over my ancient Katahdin pump filter, so much easier.
Bear vaults over hanging the packs, again so much easier and more peace of mind.
Exped Dlx9 down sleeping pad over an ancient Thermarest. Warmer and better sleep.
Bear vaults over hanging the packs, again so much easier and more peace of mind.
Exped Dlx9 down sleeping pad over an ancient Thermarest. Warmer and better sleep.
12/07/2013 09:50AM
For tripping Gravity water filter over MSR EX pump, carbon ONNO double blade over any other paddle, CCS 1.1 tarp over crappy, heavy and bulky el-cheapo tarps, Jetboil SOL over anything I've ever had
He leads me beside quiet waters, he restores my soul. Psalm 23:2/3
12/07/2013 02:18PM
I've made the following upgrades over the last several years. Best one by far was #1 Muck Boots is solid #2. The others would be rated differently depending on the time of day, I suppose.
1) Expend Downmat 9 DLX - upgrade from standard Thermarest WOW!
2) Muck Boots - upgraded from hiking boots to LL Bean rubber bottom hunting boots to Rocky insulated rubber boots and FINALLY to the Muck Boots. I do most of my tripping in early spring or late fall and am solid on the Muck Boots. Too bad it took me 40 years to find a satisfactory solution.
3) 60" snowboard bag for portaging paddles and other loose odds and ends (works great and I clip it to the shoulder straps of my Granite Gear portage pack to support the weight. - upgrade from two hands
4) Bending Branches Espresso Plus 14 - upgrade from heavier BB Expedition Plus paddle
5) MSR Whisperlight Universal use in canister mode - upgrade from noisy MSR Dragonfly. (Dragonfly is a great stove, just got tired of the noise.
6) Camp Tarp (Guide Gear) - from CCS Tarp. The CCS tarp is MUCH higher quality but I like the camp aspect enough to settle. Haven't had any problems after about 6 years though.
7) REI Half dome 4 - upgrade from 25 year old REI Mountain Hut 3. Very happy about the drab green color of the Half Dome (did I mention I like to go cameo or low visibility.
8) Expend Air Pillow - upgrade from stuff sack full of socks and underwear.
1) Expend Downmat 9 DLX - upgrade from standard Thermarest WOW!
2) Muck Boots - upgraded from hiking boots to LL Bean rubber bottom hunting boots to Rocky insulated rubber boots and FINALLY to the Muck Boots. I do most of my tripping in early spring or late fall and am solid on the Muck Boots. Too bad it took me 40 years to find a satisfactory solution.
3) 60" snowboard bag for portaging paddles and other loose odds and ends (works great and I clip it to the shoulder straps of my Granite Gear portage pack to support the weight. - upgrade from two hands
4) Bending Branches Espresso Plus 14 - upgrade from heavier BB Expedition Plus paddle
5) MSR Whisperlight Universal use in canister mode - upgrade from noisy MSR Dragonfly. (Dragonfly is a great stove, just got tired of the noise.
6) Camp Tarp (Guide Gear) - from CCS Tarp. The CCS tarp is MUCH higher quality but I like the camp aspect enough to settle. Haven't had any problems after about 6 years though.
7) REI Half dome 4 - upgrade from 25 year old REI Mountain Hut 3. Very happy about the drab green color of the Half Dome (did I mention I like to go cameo or low visibility.
8) Expend Air Pillow - upgrade from stuff sack full of socks and underwear.
Wilderness both captivates your soul and sets it free :)
12/07/2013 03:47PM
Some great ideas here, thanks guys. I have most of my own stuff, and am happy with a lot of it, like my timberline rent and beaver tail paddle, but thinking a new pack or tarp is in order. I'm still young enough (30) to carry my Old Town rather than pay for a Kevlar canoe, also I don't think I'm gentle enough for one.
“Get up, stand up, Stand up for your rights. Get up, stand up, Don't give up the fight.” ------- Bob Marley "The man who doesn't read good books has no advantage over the man who can't read them. ----- Mark Twain, American writer and Freemason
12/07/2013 04:24PM
Just about all of my camping gear has been upgraded in recent years. The most important one was probably when I threw away my old blue foam sleeping pads and got an inflatable one. That extended my camping career for many years.
The business of life is the acquisition of memories. In the end that's all there is. ___Mr Carson (Downton Abby)
12/07/2013 05:59PM
Akto tent,the Eureka was light weight and free standing but to save that weight it had too much bug net and no zip closed door.
Bell Prospector, light weight Kevlar,the Old Town Pathfinder was a stable tough boat but 20 pounds to heavy for me now.
Gaz stoves,i have a few. the Coleman Peak lasted many many years but the ease of Gaz won me over.
Bell Prospector, light weight Kevlar,the Old Town Pathfinder was a stable tough boat but 20 pounds to heavy for me now.
Gaz stoves,i have a few. the Coleman Peak lasted many many years but the ease of Gaz won me over.
it's just a level trail thru the woods.
12/07/2013 06:43PM
Any old paddle to a Bending Branches Expresso to a Badger Sliver (excellent paddle).
Cheap blue "tarp" to a CCS Tundra Tarp.
Using the CCS tarp (and getting the 10x16) over the tent (replaced two door out the sides with a 1 door on the end to facilitate this system).
More and more wool products (sweaters, to jackets, to t-shirts). Nothing beats wool.
Rag wool socks to Teko heavy hiker socks. They are incredible - keep there support day after day with no liner sock needed.
Hanging a food bag to randomly setting it in the woods - and the 30 L barrel is a nice addition. Much easier and no problems to date. Learned later that Cliff Jacobson has never hung a food bag.
Baseball cap to Filson Packer (warmer weather) or Filson wool-lined, waxed canvas outer Waterfowl hat (colder weather). Both are excellent and indestructible.
Pur Hiker and MSR pump filters to the Base Camp gravity filter.
WIll be buying no more rain jackets that simply wear out, get ripped, etc. and keep you just as wet inside as the rain outside whenever you are paddling and portaging, or hiking. Will be going only with a wool cape coat for inclement weather. Note that i do not go in the middle of the summer. Then I would simply not wear anything but my wool t-shirt.
Not looking forward to portages to accepting portages to taking things in on the portages as a unique part of the trip.
Happy planning for 2014 adventures!
Cheap blue "tarp" to a CCS Tundra Tarp.
Using the CCS tarp (and getting the 10x16) over the tent (replaced two door out the sides with a 1 door on the end to facilitate this system).
More and more wool products (sweaters, to jackets, to t-shirts). Nothing beats wool.
Rag wool socks to Teko heavy hiker socks. They are incredible - keep there support day after day with no liner sock needed.
Hanging a food bag to randomly setting it in the woods - and the 30 L barrel is a nice addition. Much easier and no problems to date. Learned later that Cliff Jacobson has never hung a food bag.
Baseball cap to Filson Packer (warmer weather) or Filson wool-lined, waxed canvas outer Waterfowl hat (colder weather). Both are excellent and indestructible.
Pur Hiker and MSR pump filters to the Base Camp gravity filter.
WIll be buying no more rain jackets that simply wear out, get ripped, etc. and keep you just as wet inside as the rain outside whenever you are paddling and portaging, or hiking. Will be going only with a wool cape coat for inclement weather. Note that i do not go in the middle of the summer. Then I would simply not wear anything but my wool t-shirt.
Not looking forward to portages to accepting portages to taking things in on the portages as a unique part of the trip.
Happy planning for 2014 adventures!
Find a Listening Point and visit often. Develop a Land Ethic and strive to live it.
12/07/2013 09:42PM
My upgrades are...
Hammock for tent
CCS tundra tarp for old blue eureka tarp
GoPro camera for Flip camera
Titanium cookware for Aluminum or stainless steel
Food pails for hanging food packs
gravity water filter for pumping water
Shamano reels for Abu-Garcia
Hammock for tent
CCS tundra tarp for old blue eureka tarp
GoPro camera for Flip camera
Titanium cookware for Aluminum or stainless steel
Food pails for hanging food packs
gravity water filter for pumping water
Shamano reels for Abu-Garcia
"So many lakes, so little time." WWJD
12/07/2013 11:09PM
quote Savage Voyageur: "My upgrades are...
Hammock for tent
CCS tundra tarp for old blue eureka tarp
GoPro camera for Flip camera
Titanium cookware for Aluminum or stainless steel
Food pails for hanging food packs
gravity water filter for pumping water
Shamano reels for Abu-Garcia "
This is one that I don't remember reading before. What do you like about titanium cookware over aluminum or stainless?
12/07/2013 11:27PM
quote gsfisher13: "quote Savage Voyageur: "Titanium cookware for Aluminum or stainless steel"
This is one that I don't remember reading before. What do you like about titanium cookware over aluminum or stainless?"
Not SV, but I also switched to titanium cookware. The #1 reason for me was that I'm a backpacker first and canoeist second, so the difference in weight is a really, really big deal. Some people also don't like the taste that aluminum can add, and others are worried about the link to Alzheimer's (which is very much debated still). Stainless steel doesn't add taste, but is very heavy. Aluminum is a bit lighter, but tastes funny. Titanium is lighter still and doesn't add taste - best of both worlds (at the expense of cost, obviously).
12/07/2013 11:46PM
quote tonyyarusso: "quote gsfisher13: "quote Savage Voyageur: "Titanium cookware for Aluminum or stainless steel"
This is one that I don't remember reading before. What do you like about titanium cookware over aluminum or stainless?"
Not SV, but I also switched to titanium cookware. The #1 reason for me was that I'm a backpacker first and canoeist second, so the difference in weight is a really, really big deal. Some people also don't like the taste that aluminum can add, and others are worried about the link to Alzheimer's (which is very much debated still). Stainless steel doesn't add taste, but is very heavy. Aluminum is a bit lighter, but tastes funny. Titanium is lighter still and doesn't add taste - best of both worlds (at the expense of cost, obviously)."
hard anodized aluminum is tasteless, as are the no stick versions.
12/08/2013 07:04AM
quote kanoes: "quote tonyyarusso: "quote gsfisher13: "quote Savage Voyageur: "Titanium cookware for Aluminum or stainless steel"
This is one that I don't remember reading before. What do you like about titanium cookware over aluminum or stainless?"
Not SV, but I also switched to titanium cookware. The #1 reason for me was that I'm a backpacker first and canoeist second, so the difference in weight is a really, really big deal. Some people also don't like the taste that aluminum can add, and others are worried about the link to Alzheimer's (which is very much debated still). Stainless steel doesn't add taste, but is very heavy. Aluminum is a bit lighter, but tastes funny. Titanium is lighter still and doesn't add taste - best of both worlds (at the expense of cost, obviously)."
hard anodized aluminum is tasteless, as are the no stick versions."
Here is why I like Titanium cookware... 5 reasons why I like Titanium
"So many lakes, so little time." WWJD
12/08/2013 11:37AM
For me it has to be the canoes. Due to the fact I'm also a Backpacker, I've always had pretty good gear, depending on the era. Through the years there has always been tweaks, but my canoes have undergone the most dramatic change.
In the early to mid-70's, there was my Alumacraft 15' tandem. Then, upgraded to a Grumman 17' "Whitewater" tandem around 1978. The next canoe upgrade in 1980 was a "Goldenglass" Sawyer Cruiser, followed a three-years later by an Expedition Kevlar Sawyer Cruiser. Finally, upgraded to a Kevlar Cross-Rib Wenonah Odyssey in 1988. The Odyssey has been my canoe-country mainstay ever since. (When my oldest daughter was younger, I'd occasionally use my Wenonah Jensen 18' as a Solo/Tandem combo when tripping on the smaller BWCAW lakes.)
As for my solo canoes; I started with a "Goldenglass" DY Special in 1981, and then an Expedition Kevlar DY Special in 1984. Around 1989, upgraded to a Kevlar Center-Rib Wenonah Jensen C1W. Although the DY was still a great solo tripper IMO, the C1W provided better load capacity, better big water capacity and offered a drier ride, turned easier than the DY Special with no sacrifice in performance.
In 2004 I upgraded to a Kevlar Flex-Core Wenonah Voyager. The Voyager provided all of the benefits of my two previous solo tripping canoes, but provided more capacity and stability for hauling my almost 90-pound Golden Retriever "Buddy". Even when I'm not hauling Buddy, the performance, seaworthiness and capacity of the Voyager is hard to beat IMHO.
Hans Solo
Water reflects not only clouds and trees and cliffs, but all the infinite variations of mind and spirit we bring to it. – Sigurd Olson
12/08/2013 04:28PM
quote missmolly: "I like my two kevlar canoes. I also like my PBL. I LOVE my LED flashlights."
Great addition MissMolly.
LED flashlights are a great upgrade, longer battery and bulb life, and they are also brighter.
"So many lakes, so little time." WWJD
12/08/2013 05:57PM
quote OldGuystilltripping: "4 man tents ( first Bibler now Trango 4) for 2, carbon (ZRE, paddles in the 90's) sawyer gravity filters last 4 years, and last trip a Helinox chair. "
I find your list intriguing. I have a Trango 3.1. Lightness ain't its forte though strength is.
Probably you are balancing things though. Helinox and gravity filter and ZRE paddle.
12/08/2013 06:07PM
quote Mickeal: "A King Pine Dome Tent HD 4-Person tent and a Double High Airbed - Queen. Did this for my September trip. Had the best eight nights sleep ever in the 25 years I have been going to the BW.
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Interesting that you used the double high airbed at 9 lbs. But if for two, that's 4.5 lbs per person. Not too bad for a good night's sleep. How long to inflate with the built in pump?
12/08/2013 06:22PM
quote Mickeal: "A King Pine Dome Tent HD 4-Person tent
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I have one of those and wonder how you portage that! I have been back to LL Bean twice for replacement poles. The fiberglass ones just snap too easily. Mine is some six years old. I use it for car camping. Next time the pole snaps, LLBean will have the entire tent on their customer service counter. The tent has great space and is pitchable by one and the patio is nice but the poles are crud.
12/10/2013 10:50AM
The trango 4 has proved to be a great tent. I went to 4 person tents for 2 with a Bibler Pueblo in the mid 1990s that was light, great, and single wall. I go on my trips in April May and late August into October. It has snowed on us many times and goes into the teens and 20's. I look for a 4 season tent with both screen doors and solid doors, a big enough vestibule to cook in, and all people with access to both doors. The Trango has two windows and enormous waterproof space, what my girlfriend calls the palace. The last trip which ended in October the screen door zippers started separating and Mountain Hardwear is repairing it currently under warranty. The tent is from 2005 and has been great in many storms.
To stay on the topic, my first tripping canoe was an abs giant that weighed 80 lbs. I don't think I could carry one. We rented lot's of kevlars, mainly Sawyer and Mad River, but I liked the Wenonahs best and bought an Itaska and later bought a Minn 2 at 42 lbs. which are my 2 canoes. Once I tried a Zeveral paddle I'll never go back, carbons are strong and weigh nothing! Bought a Sawyer gravity filter after pumping for 30 years and will carry another Sawyer as the backup and leave the pump at home. I never brought a chair but as I've said I now may have to bring a 2nd Helinox as it attached itself to my girlfriend.
To stay on the topic, my first tripping canoe was an abs giant that weighed 80 lbs. I don't think I could carry one. We rented lot's of kevlars, mainly Sawyer and Mad River, but I liked the Wenonahs best and bought an Itaska and later bought a Minn 2 at 42 lbs. which are my 2 canoes. Once I tried a Zeveral paddle I'll never go back, carbons are strong and weigh nothing! Bought a Sawyer gravity filter after pumping for 30 years and will carry another Sawyer as the backup and leave the pump at home. I never brought a chair but as I've said I now may have to bring a 2nd Helinox as it attached itself to my girlfriend.
12/10/2013 01:42PM
Owning a canoe instead of rental
MSR Hoop tent
MSR whisperlite universal stove
new thermarest (don't remember which model, but its full length and thicker than my old one)
Mountain Hardware Mesa convertable pants
packable goretex raingear.
Most of this saved weight, some of it made me more comfortable, the boat made things cheaper.
MSR Hoop tent
MSR whisperlite universal stove
new thermarest (don't remember which model, but its full length and thicker than my old one)
Mountain Hardware Mesa convertable pants
packable goretex raingear.
Most of this saved weight, some of it made me more comfortable, the boat made things cheaper.
Tight Lines
12/10/2013 09:51PM
I bought a Frogg Togg rain jacket last year and I am continually impressed by it. Very light weight. I wore it during a downpour while we were day tripping for a couple hours and it kept me dry the whole time. Even fully zipped it didn't get too hot inside like some rain jackets can, it really did feel "breathable".
Here is the part I didn't expect, I wore it the other night over a sweatshirt while snowblowing. It was 0 degrees at the time. The Frogg Toggs over the sweatshirt kept me warmer than my current "winter jacket" from Land's end. Kept the cold out, kept the blowing snow from the snowblower off me.
Here is the part I didn't expect, I wore it the other night over a sweatshirt while snowblowing. It was 0 degrees at the time. The Frogg Toggs over the sweatshirt kept me warmer than my current "winter jacket" from Land's end. Kept the cold out, kept the blowing snow from the snowblower off me.
12/11/2013 12:52PM
AndySG with a Coleman pump it took about 4 minutes. Next day tighten it up again and was good for the rest of the trip.
yellowcanoe, the carry bag the tent came in was large and strong. I could wear it like a day pack and carry my canoe at the same time.
yellowcanoe, the carry bag the tent came in was large and strong. I could wear it like a day pack and carry my canoe at the same time.
My last big fish has yet to be caught.
12/11/2013 02:21PM
I guess I should throw mine on here too.
My thermarest neo. Much thinker and way better support make for a much better night of sleep
Screw in Trolling Rod Holders. Messed around with crappy clamp ones forever, and they never really worked. Screwed these into my Oldtown and they are rock solid.
Bringing a hatchet. I can start a fire in any weather now and can make all the tinder, kindiling, and wood I ever need out of any size log. Split wood starts way easier and burns better.
My thermarest neo. Much thinker and way better support make for a much better night of sleep
Screw in Trolling Rod Holders. Messed around with crappy clamp ones forever, and they never really worked. Screwed these into my Oldtown and they are rock solid.
Bringing a hatchet. I can start a fire in any weather now and can make all the tinder, kindiling, and wood I ever need out of any size log. Split wood starts way easier and burns better.
“Get up, stand up, Stand up for your rights. Get up, stand up, Don't give up the fight.” ------- Bob Marley "The man who doesn't read good books has no advantage over the man who can't read them. ----- Mark Twain, American writer and Freemason
12/11/2013 03:08PM
Moving to a hammock from a tent has been the best change for me in the past few years. I sleep better and then feel better the next day.
Folks can argue about what hammock they think is best, but just getting up off the cold ground has been a real treat for me.
Folks can argue about what hammock they think is best, but just getting up off the cold ground has been a real treat for me.
LNT - The road to success is always under construction. http://hikingillinois.blogspot.com/
12/11/2013 03:29PM
quote jcavenagh: "Moving to a hammock from a tent has been the best change for me in the past few years. I sleep better and then feel better the next day.
Folks can argue about what hammock they think is best, but just getting up off the cold ground has been a real treat for me."
I have been toying with this but I think for this trip it wouldn't work AT ALL.
I'm just here to give my opinion...If you don't like it, ignore it.
12/11/2013 04:28PM
quote Doughboy12: "quote jcavenagh: "Moving to a hammock from a tent has been the best change for me in the past few years. I sleep better and then feel better the next day.
Folks can argue about what hammock they think is best, but just getting up off the cold ground has been a real treat for me."
I have been toying with this but I think for this trip it wouldn't work AT ALL."
I'm not sure what you mean? Are you planning a winter BW trip? Even then, hammocking works if you have the right insulation. Check out the MN Frozen Butt Hang threads on Hammockforums.net.
LNT - The road to success is always under construction. http://hikingillinois.blogspot.com/
12/11/2013 08:31PM
I trip with my son a lot, so until he's older (he's 3) no hammocks for me.
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12/11/2013 09:02PM
I use my hammock on weekend trips down here in Florida with the scouts. I thought about using it in the Q, but my tripping partners are usually my two sons. I would rather "hang" with them in the tent. We do use them when we go backpacking. If I was with a bunch of other guys, I would opt for my hammock. I do sleep better in my hammock than on the ground.
12/12/2013 12:23AM
quote jcavenagh: "quote Doughboy12: "quote jcavenagh: "Moving to a hammock from a tent has been the best change for me in the past few years. I sleep better and then feel better the next day.
Folks can argue about what hammock they think is best, but just getting up off the cold ground has been a real treat for me."
I have been toying with this but I think for this trip it wouldn't work AT ALL."
I'm not sure what you mean? Are you planning a winter BW trip? Even then, hammocking works if you have the right insulation. Check out the MN Frozen Butt Hang threads on Hammockforums.net."
Yes...I leave at noon.
I'm just here to give my opinion...If you don't like it, ignore it.
12/12/2013 01:40PM
quote jcavenagh: "Doughboy12 gonna be one cool camper...NWS sz single digits F and snowing until Monday, when it gets all the way up to 16F..."
wow.. He will be active all day.. unless he can stay in the hammock all the time.
I am a wuss. Snowtrekker and a stove for me!(thank you ebay)
12/12/2013 01:49PM
quote yellowcanoe: "quote jcavenagh: "Doughboy12 gonna be one cool camper...NWS sz single digits F and snowing until Monday, when it gets all the way up to 16F..."
wow.. He will be active all day.. unless he can stay in the hammock all the time.
I am a wuss. Snowtrekker and a stove for me!(thank you ebay)"
No thanks. Only about eight and a half hours of daylight this time of year. The night is too long even in my nice and toasty cabin. : )
12/12/2013 02:40PM
quote yellowcanoe: "quote jcavenagh: "Doughboy12 gonna be one cool camper...NWS sz single digits F and snowing until Monday, when it gets all the way up to 16F..."
wow.. He will be active all day.. unless he can stay in the hammock all the time.
I am a wuss. Snowtrekker and a stove for me!(thank you ebay)"
We reached the limit of our go/no go low temperature at -20. If the forecast gets there we postpone so I didn't leave...and may not go at all. The trip goals would take 3-4 days and with that pushing it there was no way to do what we wanted and may just save it for another day.
I do not yet hang and the temps are one of the reasons.
I'm just here to give my opinion...If you don't like it, ignore it.
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