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serenityseeker

06/29/2012 03:00PM

Anyone seen this? It looks fabulous!! No need to carry fuel anymore.

Biolite CampStove

I'll probably wait a few years to make sure they have all the kinks worked out and pray the price drops a little, but dang. no more expensive, heavy fuel to carry in.

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Ragged

06/29/2012 03:06PM

As someone working on developing a related product I can see a few issue, I can’t help but wonder how they are going about a few things,

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BWPaddler

06/29/2012 03:24PM

Spill it Ragged!

I like the "homestove" concept... cool!

Wherever there is a channel for water, there is a road for the canoe. -Thoreau

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Ragged

06/29/2012 03:59PM

quote BWPaddler: "Spill it Ragged!

I like the "homestove" concept... cool!"

Well basically I’m not sure how they are making enough power to charge a phone for that price, I suspect it won’t charge most smart phones or they will be using very low end thermoelectric power generating cells, in which case I’d be very worried about it working for very long. Low end cells do not have very high operating temps, they have a limit, and when they reach it the semiconductors inside are junk. I’m not seeing where it will tell you if you are running the risk of damaging the thermo electric cells. I’m by no means saying they won’t make it work, I’m surprised everyday by what others are putting out, and I’m just genuinely curious how they are dealing with those two issues at that price point.

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awbrown

06/29/2012 08:25PM

This thing has been "close" to production now for a couple of years. I wouldn't hold my breath.

Keep the open side up

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Grandma L

06/30/2012 04:43PM

It would be great if it really worked and was a high quality product with a reasonable life-span.

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IBFLY

06/30/2012 08:13PM

Well basically I’m not sure how they are making enough power to charge a phone for that price, I suspect it won’t charge most smart phones or they will be using very low end thermoelectric power generating cells, in which case I’d be very worried about it working for very long.
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+1
Very interesting idea though.
I find it a little funny that they are marketing the carbon footprint angle. Burning wood releases carbon. The materials in the product contain carbon. The manufacturing process that creates the metals and plastic in the assembled product are high carbon footprint processes. If it is made elsewhere - it has a high embodied energy quotient and carbon footprint. I'm not saying it wouldn't a worthwhile product -I just think some of the touted benefits are more marketing and not wholly true. Somewhat misleading.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

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Drab

06/30/2012 08:23PM

Burning wood releases carbon, but isn't it carbon that would have been released anyway when the sticks decompose?

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IBFLY

06/30/2012 08:32PM

As the wood and/or other vegetable matter decomposes most of the carbon is slowly absorbed and sequestered back into the organic matter - soil, grasses, trees, other living things, etc.

I'm not against burning wood, I like a fire as much as the next person - I was reacting to seemingly growing trend of marketing everything from a green or sustainable angle even when some of the claims are fairly fine shavings.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

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gutmon

06/30/2012 08:35PM

carbon happens

"The trouble with the world isn't that people know too little, but that they know so much that just ain't so." Mark Twain

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Eightweight

07/01/2012 08:13AM

quote awbrown: "This thing has been "close" to production now for a couple of years. I wouldn't hold my breath."

Here is the link to another site and someone has it for sale , says there shipping now!!!

http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=55212

good luck
Bill

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awbrown

07/01/2012 09:36AM

quote Eightweight: "quote awbrown: "This thing has been "close" to production now for a couple of years. I wouldn't hold my breath."

Here is the link to another site and someone has it for sale , says there shipping now!!!

http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=55212

good luck
Bill"

I'm still going to wait until someone here on this forum actually has one in their possession, and gives us a review. I guess I'm always a bit skeptical about new, flashy items.......that nobody yet owns.

Keep the open side up

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IBFLY

07/01/2012 11:33AM

quote gutmon: "carbon happens"
Carbon IS.
And carbon is a whole lot like god, or the honeybadger. Carbon don't care!

You say that like it's a bad thing.

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pswith5

07/01/2012 11:56AM

Many of these stoves seem to be specifically for boiling. Can you pan-fry on a stove like this?

without the bad times: the good times wouldn't seem so good

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IBFLY

07/01/2012 01:58PM

you can - with a solo fry pan - not well, takes a long time

You say that like it's a bad thing.

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yellowcanoe

07/01/2012 02:21PM

preliminary review

Its kind of fuzzy if these stoves are usable during a fire ban.

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jcavenagh

07/01/2012 03:06PM

OK. There are now quite a few youtube reviews on this stove.
Iinitially it looks really cool as a a gadget. A little heavy for hiking, but in the boat, should be just fine.
I have no idea about longevity or high end vs low end thermo generator components.

LNT - The road to success is always under construction. http://hikingillinois.blogspot.com/

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andym

07/01/2012 04:46PM

I did a search and found two quotes of fire ban wording on this site. Both included the phrase, "the use of campfires, charcoal or wood-burning campstoves are prohibited."

So, unless future fire bans are worded differently then I think these stoves would be prohibited as well.

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gutmon

07/01/2012 05:34PM

quote yellowcanoe: " preliminary review

Its kind of fuzzy if these stoves are usable during a fire ban." Not fuzzy at all- can't be used legally.

"The trouble with the world isn't that people know too little, but that they know so much that just ain't so." Mark Twain

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yellowcanoe

07/01/2012 08:54PM

quote gutmon: "quote yellowcanoe: " preliminary review

Its kind of fuzzy if these stoves are usable during a fire ban." Not fuzzy at all- can't be used legally."

Gotcha. I knew they were illegal in Algonquin but not so certain of the BW or Q.

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andym

07/01/2012 10:07PM

My quote referred to the BW and SNF. I don't know about Q.

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