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CanoeKev  
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06/26/2012 09:56PM
 
I know a lot of folks have converted to Steri-Pen use. Here is a question for you: How do you know it "works well"? You put it in the water, the water doesn't change color or appearance, so how can you be sure it has killed any organisms? How do you know there is not some electrical malfunction that is not immediately apparent, which is causing it to do nothing to the water? At least with a filter you know that there is some physical barrier that is giving you some level of protection. If your answer is that you don't get sick after drinking the water, I would counter that since I have never gotten sick drinking unfiltered BWCA water in 40 years, that is no guarantee of effectiveness.
What say you, loyal users?
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timatkn  
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06/26/2012 10:17PM
 
I haven't used mine yet, only have it for emergency use--most of the time I just dip straight from the lake, but UV light is known to kill items in the water that make us sick. You can actually just put a clear water bottle in the sun for a certain amount of time and it will do the same thing. So as long as the UV light works then you can be fairly certain the unit is killing everything. So I feel it is as certain as anything out there right now.


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Savage Voyageur  
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06/26/2012 10:21PM
 
I was going to ask the same thing as you, but did not. They said on the other post it works well and have fresh water. First how do you know it works and second you do not have fresh water. At best you have drinking water with all the dead stuff in it, and pine pollen, algae, and who knows what. With a filter you remove the nasties and some have a carbon filter to remove the taste to nothing but pure water. I used to dip right out of the water, then I saw a five inch tapeworm swimming in the water about the size of a thread. That thing did not start out five inches long, it started out very small. Would a Steri-pen kill one of those? UV does work because they use it to treat public water, I'm just not sold on the idea yet.


"So many lakes, so little time."
OBX2Kayak  
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06/26/2012 10:24PM
 
How do I know for sure that the Steri-pen is doing it's job correctly? For me, it's a bit of an act of faith.


1) My model has a light that comes on when the job is "done." Of course, this item could malfunction and I would never know. So, ...


2) I, like you, always dip from the center of the lake.


I consider the Steripen to be a bit of "extra" treatment for water that I believe is already safe.


That said, I've talked to backpackers that use their Steripen in the western mountains and swear by it's effectiveness.


"I go because it irons out the wrinkles in my soul" -- Sigurd Olson
BWPaddler  
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06/27/2012 12:25AM
 
another religion thread? ;)


I use it per specs and "believe"...


RARE you would have to drink nasty stuff and couldn't find clearish water in BW... maybe elsewhere. But once when the "squigglies" were too visible, I used a fine dish cloth to pre-filter the live stuff out. Worked for me.


Now, I bought a steri-pen pre-filter for that purpose, but haven't used it yet and cannot comment.


Wherever there is a channel for water, there is a road for the canoe. -Thoreau
SunCatcher  
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06/27/2012 07:21AM
 
The science behind the technology works.
As long as the light/tube is glowing then the steripen is doing it's job of killing the bad bugs.
The glow of the light tells you it is working.
I only use mine during the day, at night I use my base camp filter, and filter water for cooking and drinking and filling up nalgene's.
I put the Steripen in my thwart bag and use during the day.


I like the taste of filtered water better, as there is a carbon center to the filter and it really is better tasting water, and the filter takes out any "solids" or floaties that are in the water.


SunCatcher


Dad Always said "We don't Always catch fish...but we ALWAYS have a good time"
nctry  
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06/27/2012 09:06AM
 
Well, just two weeks after I used it I have a mild case of guardia. So it kind of worked. :)


Nctry Ben
PineKnot  
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06/27/2012 09:39AM
 
A "...mild case of giardia"?? Holy s#$t! :-)


Streipen, gravity filters, pump filters, iodine tabs...I guess they all work in their own ways...I hope....





Do what you can, with what you have, where you are -- Teddy Roosevelt
Goby  
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06/27/2012 09:45AM
 
quote nctry: "Well, just two weeks after I used it I have a mild case of guardia. So it kind of worked. :)"


Not sure how you filled your bottle, but if you are dipping your water bottle in the lake, and then using the steripen, you can still get nasties into your system:


The steripen DOES kill whats IN your water bottle, however, the water on the outside, and lets say the rim/threads hasn't been treated. Anything in there, even though its so minimal CAN get you sick.


Back to the OP, you know the steripen is working by seeing the light. If the light is on, its killing nasties.





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Woods Walker  
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06/27/2012 03:34PM
 
I used mine a couple weeks ago, I used it when traveling to dip from middle of the lake... which I would drink anyway, just an extra precaution. I keep it in my PFD as part of my ditch kit.


BTW, if you swim or wash up near your campsite or shore you can get the nasties... I laughed when my brother commented he wouldn't trust the SteriPen & then latter was spitting water out of his mouth every time he surfaced while swimming.


A road is a dagger placed in the heart of a wilderness. -William O. Douglas, in Ghost Grizzlies
Hawkeye2010  
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06/30/2012 11:00PM
 
I believe the science behind it is sound. Giardia nailed me in the middle of the night once and I couldn't find my way out of the tent. Now I'm a belt and suspenders type of guy. Call me paranoid but I filter with my Katydyn and then treat with a Steripen. I'll do anything I can to avoid illness on my precious BW trips.


Believe in the science!
gutmon  
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07/01/2012 09:16AM
 
Make sure after your water has been treated when using a steripen that you close the lid of your water bottle almost all the way, turn it upside down, and rinse off the lid, mouth and top of the waterbottle with the treated water to flush away any untreated water (if you used your bottle to dip untreated water).


"The trouble with the world isn't that people know too little, but that they know so much that just ain't so." Mark Twain
markaroberts  
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07/01/2012 01:10PM
 
"t I filter with my Katydyn and then treat with a Steripen. I'll do anything I can to avoid illness on my precious BW trips."


I thought I was the only one that did that.
1stSatInMay  
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07/01/2012 02:53PM
 
Same way you know your filter (either gravity or pump) works. Or for that matter, iodine or boiling.


An act of faith. I'm told it works so if I use it as advertised, I expect it does. Same w/ my gravity filter. Since I can't see the bacteria, I have to take the mfg's word on it.


The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps! Eleanor Roosevelt, First Lady of the United States, 1945
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