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Diego

06/19/2012 01:34PM

Im getting closer to completing the refinish project of a kevlar Souris River. The inside of the canoe is pretty unattractive. I tested a small spot with the varnish that I used on the outside and it looks much better, gave the kevlar some definition and a wet look without it being any noticeably more slippery that the areas without.

So, besides the increased weight, is there any reason not to?

Thanks

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SouthernExposure

06/19/2012 04:02PM

Nope, no good reason. If you are using a good varnish with UV inhibitors, it should protect the epoxy resin from clouding up from exposure to the sun. Also, I have never noticed any problems with the surface being too slippery after varnishing. Once it dries, there is very little additional weight gain.

SE

"Them Confederate snipers couldn't hit an elephant at this dist...." Union General John Sedgwick

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dprochef

06/19/2012 05:03PM

I am looking to refinish my Merlin II. both inside and out. I just bought it and the outside is a little dull. The inside has a white splotchy look to it.

What product are you using? Where did you get it from? How did you apply it?

Courage is being scared to death... but saddling up anyway....John Wayne

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LuvMyBell

06/19/2012 05:08PM

quote dprochef: "I am looking to refinish my Merlin II. both inside and out. I just bought it and the outside is a little dull. The inside has a white splotchy look to it.

What product are you using? Where did you get it from? How did you apply it?"

Souris River canoes are made from epoxy resin. Bell and Wenonah canoes are made from vinyl resin. The differences require different refinishing methods.

There is a great article on the Red Rock website on hot to do it right for the Souris River canoes. I think it also provides enough info for the others.

Paddle Faster....I hear banjo music

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Coda1

06/19/2012 07:48PM

It might make it a little more slippery. I used resin on the inside of mine and it is a bit more slippery but I figure it is worth it to protect the Kevlar from wearing more.

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kanoes

06/19/2012 08:03PM

mine didnt seem slippery at all. before and after pics. i used minwax helmsman spar urethane

i think bigfoot is blurry. (mitch hedberg...youtube it))

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Diego

06/19/2012 09:14PM

quote dprochef: "I am looking to refinish my Merlin II. both inside and out. I just bought it and the outside is a little dull. The inside has a white splotchy look to it.

What product are you using? Where did you get it from? How did you apply it?"

I got the interlux schooner marine varnish. Got it from wholesalemarine.com. free fast shipping and its good stuff. Got the interlux thinner for it too.

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Diego

06/19/2012 09:19PM

quote kanoes: "mine didnt seem slippery at all. before and after pics. i used minwax helmsman spar urethane

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Nicely done. Hope mine turns out as well.

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cowdoc

06/19/2012 09:42PM

Sometimes the white blotchy spots on the inside are mineral deposits. Scrub, rinse and dry well before using the varnish.

"What could happen?"

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wetcanoedog

06/19/2012 11:31PM

i'll give it a try and see how it works out removing the white blotches on the inside of my Bell Prospector.scrubbing and a coat of Armor All did not help much.i have varnish and a brush out now as i'm sanding and giving the wood gunwales on my old Old Town Pathfinder a good refinish.
hint..go easy on the Waco Oil.when i put the Pathfinder away a few years ago in favor of the new Prospector i gave the woodwork a heavy lathering of oil without rubbing it down.the idea was to protect the wood for the long time i assumed it with sit unused.well it collected a lot of dirt and grime and the wood was really dark.it took a afternoon with a power sander and several sheet of 100 grit to get the wood looking better.i did a few coats of varnish and i'm going outside in a minute to flip the boat over to keep the next round of rain off the new woodwork.

it's just a level trail thru the woods.

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IBFLY

06/20/2012 10:00AM

DO it!

You say that like it's a bad thing.

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SouthernExposure

06/20/2012 10:53AM

Sometimes the white blotchy patches are a waxy byproduct on the surface of the resin called blush. If that is what it is, scrubbing them thoroughly with white vinegar should remove them. Rinse well, dry, (edit) then varnish (edit).

Good luck.

SE

"Them Confederate snipers couldn't hit an elephant at this dist...." Union General John Sedgwick

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yellowcanoe

06/20/2012 10:59AM

Amine blush will return when wet.

Unless sealed

see here

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wetcanoedog

06/20/2012 11:00AM

Southern..thats a new bit of advice on the white patches,i'll give it a try today.

it's just a level trail thru the woods.

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otter1

06/20/2012 09:10PM

Diego, just don't seal over the vent holes on the floor ribs. Plugged vents will cause your Souris to bloat.

"Common sense is not so common" -Voltaire

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yellowcanoe

06/20/2012 09:28PM

Vent holes in the floor ribs? Water intake valves?

There are no holes even in the float tanks. I had to install some ( I took the boat over 14000 feet and really was worried about stressing the sealed tanks)

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Frenchy19

06/20/2012 09:43PM

I just inquired @ NW Canoe today about the white spots that appeared on my Magic over the past week in the BW. Here is what Dennis had to say:

"Your canoe has "blush". It's a cosmetic issue, mineral deposits and moisture accumulating in the tiny pores of your hand laminated canoe. Get a gallon of denatured alcohol and nylon brush; give the interior of your canoe a good scrubbing. To keep the blush from re-appearing seal it with a good marine varnish. We now carry twoquality brands of marine varnish, SuperMarine Clears and Epifanes."

"He hits from both sides of the plate. He’s amphibious." Yogi Berra

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kanoes

06/20/2012 09:47PM

quote Frenchy19: "I just inquired @ NW Canoe today about the white spots that appeared on my Magic over the past week in the BW. Here is what Dennis had to say:

"Your canoe has "blush". It's a cosmetic issue, mineral deposits and moisture accumulating in the tiny pores of your hand laminated canoe. Get a gallon of denatured alcohol and nylon brush; give the interior of your canoe a good scrubbing. To keep the blush from re-appearing seal it with a good marine varnish. We now carry twoquality brands of marine varnish, SuperMarine Clears and Epifanes." "
so i used the cheap shit? LOL

i think bigfoot is blurry. (mitch hedberg...youtube it))

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Diego

06/21/2012 05:13AM

quote otter1: "Diego, just don't seal over the vent holes on the floor ribs. Plugged vents will cause your Souris to bloat."

Yes, I saw those and didnt know what to make of them. The holes are three to a rib and uniformly distributed so they are obviously meant to be there, but i didnt know why. Ill make sure to avoid them. What do you mean by bloating of the boat?

Thanks.

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otter1

06/21/2012 09:42AM

If plugged those ribs swell up causing outside of canoe to look bloated or big lump. Clean out holes and let the sun hit it and swelling goes away.

"Common sense is not so common" -Voltaire

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otter1

06/21/2012 09:46AM

quote yellowcanoe: "Vent holes in the floor ribs? Water intake valves?

There are no holes even in the float tanks. I had to install some ( I took the boat over 14000 feet and really was worried abouttxz stressing the sealed tanks)"yours must be plugged. Look again there small 1/16th maybe.

"Common sense is not so common" -Voltaire

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