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Crooked_Paddle  
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05/08/2012 07:07AM
 
At past in BWCA, on my knees I dig a hole, brush my teeth & spit in hole. When done cover it up. Any better way? What about baking soda & spit out anywhere away from camp?


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schweady  
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05/08/2012 08:09AM
 
I've found that I can LNT if I do some rinsing/diluting of the spittle before depositing it in a depression I've found or made in a bit of soil well away from camp. Spread, cover, rinse a bit more if need be. Using a smaller amount of paste in the first place is always a good thing, too.



"You can observe a lot by watching." -- Yogi Berra
HikingStick  
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05/08/2012 08:33AM
 
In reality, the brushing action in conjunction with water alone is likely more than enough to keep your teeth clean during a week in the wilderness. Unless you are really concerned about bad breath, or have sensitivity and are using a paste designed to help with that, you'll likely be fine.


Brushing daily with toothpaste didn't become part of modern culture until early in the 20th century. I believe it was Pepsident that launched the first successful marketing campaign in an effort to imply that daily brushing was a need. They were successful, and the concepts of that campaign became the foundation of modern marketing (prior to the Internet age).


“If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.” ? J.R.R. Tolkien, The Hobbit
boonie  
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05/08/2012 09:08AM
 
I either just swallow it or spit into the trash bag.
fitgers1  
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05/08/2012 09:45AM
 
I'm sure someone will have a smart*** comment for the last one.


I spit the toothpaste into coals/ash on the side of the fire in the grate.


“What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.” Ralph Waldo Emerson...and...“Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".
schells  
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05/08/2012 11:28AM
 
learned at NOLS. Dilute and spray away from camp and not into the wind.

here is a link to the same thing from backpacker

spray

nojobro  
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05/08/2012 11:38AM
 
I regularly use Biotene toothpaste. It is low-foaming and therefore even if I do a big ol' glob spit, you can hardly see it. I still do the spray thing, though. And if I see something left behind (esp. after my kids brush as they have a harder time with the spray deal), I rinse it with some water to dilute it.
Jackfish  
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05/08/2012 11:41AM
 
quote fitgers1: "I spit the toothpaste into coals/ash on the side of the fire in the grate."
What Fitgers said.


It's only a spot on the map... until you go there.
Canoearoo  
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05/08/2012 11:54AM
 
i add water and swallow.. makes a mouth fresh!


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Sierra1  
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05/08/2012 12:20PM
 
quote Canoearoo: "i add water and swallow.. makes a mouth fresh!"


+1


Watch out for that rock!!!........ Oooo.... That's going to leave a mark...
Minnesotian  
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05/08/2012 01:14PM
 



Spit into the latrine.


"We should go forth on the shortest walk, perchance in the spirit of undying adventure, never to return - prepared to send back our embalmed hearts only as relics to our desolate kingdom." - Thoreau
schweady  
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05/08/2012 01:15PM
 
quote schells: "learned at NOLS. Dilute and spray away from camp and not into the wind.


here is a link to the same thing from backpacker


spray


"

Yeah, seems like I'm always right behind a lot of NOLS disciples who have camped on my site the day before, spewing the foliage white. Very pretty.



"You can observe a lot by watching." -- Yogi Berra
BWPaddler  
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05/08/2012 01:16PM
 
quote HikingStick: "In reality, the brushing action in conjunction with water alone is likely more than enough to keep your teeth clean during a week in the wilderness. Unless you are really concerned about bad breath, or have sensitivity and are using a paste designed to help with that, you'll likely be fine.


Brushing daily with toothpaste didn't become part of modern culture until early in the 20th century. I believe it was Pepsident that launched the first successful marketing campaign in an effort to imply that daily brushing was a need. They were successful, and the concepts of that campaign became the foundation of modern marketing (prior to the Internet age)."

+1, Amen... brush long enough and teeth are smooth and clean without a drop of paste. Save yourself a couple ounces of pack weight!


Wherever there is a channel for water, there is a road for the canoe. -Thoreau
Beaverjack  
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05/08/2012 03:38PM
 
Save it in a Nalgene bottle. Makes a great topping for fry bread or pancakes, and is much lighter than maple syrup. If everyone contributes, there should be plenty for several breakfasts. You'll have to experiment with flavors to see which suits your taste and recipe best. I'm partial to good ol' Pepsident, but my darling bride prefers Colgate wintergreen spittle. Best to experiment at home to find the brand and flavor that works best for your crew of hungry campers.


You cannot hope too much or dare too much. - R.W. Emerson
Bwoods  
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05/08/2012 03:57PM
 
I only use a dab of paste and then I take a swig of water to dilute before spraying it away from my campsite. The next mornings dew or a light sprinkle will eliminate what little evidence may be left after it dries up.


I believe in most of the LNT principles but I have my limits, a tiny amount of diluted toothpaste spread out is not going to have a neagative impact on future visitors or the environment. Those that say otherwise are being overly dramatic and unreasonable.
joe47  
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05/08/2012 04:34PM
 
+1, Bwoods.


Very funny, Beaverjack. Loved it.


Joe
Spartan2  
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05/08/2012 04:47PM
 
+2 Bwoods
Wetlander  
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05/08/2012 05:07PM
 
IMHO digging a hole is more of an impact than a little toothpaste on the ground.


The greatest wonder is that we can see these trees and not wonder more.-- Ralph Waldo Emerson
realandrea  
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05/08/2012 06:05PM
 
Wow, I was eating dinner when I read this thread. Then I started vomiting profusely and now need to go brush my teeth!
Scout64  
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05/08/2012 06:49PM
 
I spit it neatly on a rock, making sure to preserve a round glob. The next day I use the dried toothpaste as and after dinner mint. Tasty!
OK, I use baking soda and spit in the fire.


"Wilderness is not a luxury but a necessity of the human spirit."
bumabu  
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05/08/2012 07:06PM
 
I dont brush on canoe trips, really not a big deal.


Who I am precedes what I do, not the other way around.
schweady  
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05/08/2012 07:51PM
 
Okay, you found me out... I actually rip out a huge hunk of 1,000 year old moss and leave my big, white goobers under there.



"You can observe a lot by watching." -- Yogi Berra
RaisedByBears99  
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05/08/2012 08:58PM
 
Toothbrush and water.
snakecharmer  
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05/08/2012 09:12PM
 
quote Wetlander: "IMHO digging a hole is more of an impact than a little toothpaste on the ground."
+1


"Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing it is not fish they are after"
~ Henry David Thoreau
jcavenagh  
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05/08/2012 09:36PM
 
Brush? What brush?



LNT - The road to success is always under construction. http://hikingillinois.blogspot.com/
jcavenagh  
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05/08/2012 09:37PM
 
Seriously, I usually rinse and spit it out back in the woods.


LNT - The road to success is always under construction. http://hikingillinois.blogspot.com/
schweady  
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05/08/2012 10:21PM
 
quote Wetlander: "IMHO digging a hole is more of an impact than a little toothpaste on the ground."
Mine are no more than 3-4 feet deep. What's the big deal?



"You can observe a lot by watching." -- Yogi Berra
TeamTuna06  
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05/08/2012 11:12PM
 
I just use sand.


"If people concentrated on the really important things in life, there’d be a shortage of fishing poles." -Doug Larson
MeatHunter  
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05/13/2012 07:28PM
 
The LNT thing can get a bit out of hand at times. We are part of nature, not a foreign entity within it. Spitting in the woods, peeing on the portage, using a mild soap for a sponge bath within the woods will not hurt a thing. The sheer fact that there is an IRON firegrate and latrine at the campsite pretty much detracts from the whole LNT practice. I prefer to call it, "minimize your presence", which is pretty much all one can do.


Leave the place cleaner than when you arrived and you've done your part. The only way to leave to trace is by not going at all.
Rant over, we now resume our regularly scheduled broadcasting lol


Some people see nature as being made "Just for them", and view others as an invasive species..... We are always hearing about how Social Security is going to run out of money. How come we never hear about Welfare running out of money? What’s interesting is the first group worked for their money .. the second group did not.” WTF???
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05/13/2012 10:31PM
 
quote Bwoods: "I only use a dab of paste and then I take a swig of water to dilute before spraying it away from my campsite. The next mornings dew or a light sprinkle will eliminate what little evidence may be left after it dries up.



I believe in most of the LNT principles but I have my limits, a tiny amount of diluted toothpaste spread out is not going to have a neagative impact on future visitors or the environment. Those that say otherwise are being overly dramatic and unreasonable.
"

+3


The business of life is the acquisition of memories. In the end that's all there is. ___Mr Carson (Downton Abby)
Corsair  
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05/13/2012 10:58PM
 
Never thought about this one. I have just spit into the woods.



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Wetlander  
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05/15/2012 07:48AM
 
quote schweady: "quote Wetlander: "IMHO digging a hole is more of an impact than a little toothpaste on the ground."
Mine are no more than 3-4 feet deep. What's the big deal?
"



May your toothpaste rest in peace!


The greatest wonder is that we can see these trees and not wonder more.-- Ralph Waldo Emerson
HowardSprague  
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05/15/2012 07:51AM
 
Wow, when I started reading this thread I thought it was a LNT thread parody.


What Bwoods said.
What Meathunter said.


What's next - capturing expelled anal gas in a ziplock and packing it out?



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AndySG  
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05/15/2012 11:53AM
 
LOL Howie! What's next, bagging our exhaled CO2 and hauling that out?


"I rather paddle in ignorant bliss than be arrogantly informed." ~ Kenneth Martenson
schweady  
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05/15/2012 12:56PM
 
This weekend, one especially gassy fishing partner pondered (after an episode of incredibly powerful output), "If I could just bottle those..." to which the other two of us pleaded, in unison, "Please do!"



"You can observe a lot by watching." -- Yogi Berra
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