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ChazzTheGnome  
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03/24/2011 06:35PM
 
I am planning on building my first stripper next spring and i am looking to take a poll. I have been looking on the internet and reading a lot of the posts here. lots of good info.

i am looking to get a few books with a few different approaches to the building process (looking for lots of ideas to see what i like and dont).

So, what are your favorite books, websites, supply shops (i am in the twin cities, mn), and any other favorites a newbie should check out.

some of my background so you know (sorta) who i am: i have been canoeing and camping since i was a little kid. i am a pretty decent woodworker, no expert but the items i make i am proud of. have the space and most of the basic tools (any specialty items i should be looking for?)

looking forward to your suggestions and starting the research part of the process, thanks.


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Wables  
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03/24/2011 06:44PM
 
IMO, the best book to buy if you are only going to buy 1 is Canoecraft. I have 4 or 5 others, and I have taken ideas from all of them, but I think that Canoecraft is the best.


Definitely check out the builders group on www.bearmountainboats.com. There are other good sites as well, but this one has helped me the most.


If you are going to make your own strips, you will ideally have a table or band saw, surface planer or drum sander, and a router with a bead and cove bit set. A saber saw works well for cutting the forms and other misc. tasks, and I use my disk and belt sanders a bit, too. You can save a ton of money if you make your own strips from 8 to 12 foot boards, and scarf or butt join them.


Other important tools are a good set of chisels, a spokeshave, high and low angle planes, and a ROS. If you don't know how to sharpen hand tools, you will soon become an expert. Epoxy dulls them in no time.


As far as suppliers, most of my wood comes from Menards, but you need to go through every board that they have, sometimes for a couple of months, to get the right stuff. I get my caning materials from H.H. Perkins, and epoxy and fiberglass from U.S. Composites. However, on my current boat I am going to switch to Raka.


Good luck!


"Hold on, I think I can get in without getting my feet wet."....SPLASH...
amhacker22@hotmail.com  
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03/24/2011 08:03PM
 
Download the FREE building book at Northwest canoe. You can't beat the price, and Northwest Canoe is a fantastic resource.
HighPlainsDrifter  
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03/24/2011 09:24PM
 
Hi


There is a bunch of good information on the Internet, but these 2 sites are excellent:

1) hook up with Bear Mountain Builders Forum
Bear Mountain

2) study the work of Michne. I really like his techniques. His sand-paper-on-a-stick saved me when I worked on the rolling bevel of the inner stem
Michne Boat


I do what I feel comfortable with....... picking and choosing from the Internet and these books:
1) CanoeCraft by Ted Moores
2) Building a Cedar Strip canoe by Gil Gilpatrick (his ways are a bit "stone age when compared to Moores, but he has a lot of good advice that you can digest easily)
3) Builders notes from NW Canoe (I like the advice in this book and I refer to it and Moores book the most)


"Boredom, Tyler - that's what's wrong. And how do you beat boredom, Tyler?... Adventure...(Never Cry Wolf, 1983)
Jiimaan  
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03/24/2011 10:18PM
 
Ted Moores Canoecraft book is a must have.


Bearmountainboat website is an excellent source of info
Wables  
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03/24/2011 11:36PM
 
quote HighPlainsDrifter:


2) study the work of Michne. I really like his techniques. His sand-paper-on-a-stick saved me when I worked on the rolling bevel of the inner stem
Michne Boat
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+1! With the sand paper on a stick and a sharp spokeshave, the inner stems are a a piece of cake!


One of the books, I think it is Gilpatrick's gives the pattern for weaving cane seats as well. This subject is not covered in my version of Canoecraft. You need to learn to do this, as a big seat is SWEET!


"Hold on, I think I can get in without getting my feet wet."....SPLASH...
ChazzTheGnome  
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03/25/2011 07:26AM
 
great info. i am heading to barnes and noble on my lunch to see if the BWJ is there and i will see if they have a copy of canoecraft as well.


thanks!



Bannock  
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03/25/2011 12:05PM
 
quote amhacker22@hotmail.com: "Download the FREE building book at Northwest canoe. You can't beat the price, and Northwest Canoe is a fantastic resource."


Since you are in the Twin Cities, I couldn't agree more with the Northwest Canoe recommendation. Look no further. Stop over there and check it out. They have everything you need.


I have many canoe building books. The best IMHO is (was) the MCA Builder's Book. I think the Northwest Book may be the decendant of it.



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Cedarboy  
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03/25/2011 03:38PM
 
Cant say enough good things about Northwest Canoe, thats where I get my supplies and a drink a fair amount of coffee.
Great bunch of guys.
CB
ChazzTheGnome  
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03/28/2011 07:51AM
 
i will have to make a trip in to see those guys and get familiar with them...i am sure i will need their help along the way.
Minnesotian  
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03/31/2011 07:44AM
 
Chazz,
When you start looking for lumber, I suggest the following three places:


Youngblood Lumber in northeast Minneapolis


Siwek Lumber also in northeast Minneapolis


and Ottertail Lumber company. They have a warehouse off of University and Malcolm just barely in Minneapolis by highway 280.


If you are looking for tools, head to Seven Corners Hardware in St. Paul.


and if you are looking for Fiberglass products, like the West Systems, try Express Composites in northeast by the Grainger. They also carry kevlar and carbon fiber if you wanna go down that route.


My job is a shopper/buyer for an major industry here in the cities, so over the years I have found and jotted down places that I know will come in handy when I build my canoe as well.
Hope those guys help.


"We should go forth on the shortest walk, perchance in the spirit of undying adventure, never to return - prepared to send back our embalmed hearts only as relics to our desolate kingdom." - Thoreau
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