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kanoes  
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03/23/2009 08:07PM
 
ok, not the real deal. as suggested on here awhile ago, i came up with my own solution. i know tugeyes have an installation pdf on their website. that said...

what are the opinions for correct, optimal placement. its going to be difficult for me (mentally) to drill 4, 5/8" holes in the hull, i want to get it right.


bigfoot is blurry...
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gutmon  
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03/24/2009 05:34AM
 
Why do it at all? I can count on one hand the times I have lined the canoe through shallow water. I just tied onto the handholds and it worked just fine. I'd think twice, and then twice again, before drilling holes.
Cedarboy  
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03/24/2009 06:56AM
 
kanoes
Put then about 1/3 of the way down from the top of the stems(about 4-5 inches on my 38 Special and 6 inches on my tandems) and about 2 inches back from the stems. I make a paper pattern when I drill mine so I can get them even. CB
Beemer01  
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03/24/2009 08:04AM
 
Kanoes -

It's a mental thing. Tip - drill all the way through both sides - that way they'll line up more or less perfectly - standard Hardware store drills work fine. I travel the Q quite a bit and have lined many times. I like the product, I own the first Kevlar canoe to have them installed - I corresponded with the inventor. Neat product - make certain you position them low.




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Canoealingus  
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03/24/2009 02:31PM
 
I have read "mid point on the stem and stern" and I have also read "2" above the water line" it didn't say waterline when the canoe is loaded or empty.
I just asked Jon at Rutabaga about this last month, about putting them in my carbon fiber Prism and he didn't recommend it.
So in addition to Kanoes question has anyone done this to a carbon fiber canoe?


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Canoealingus  
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03/24/2009 02:31PM
 
I have read "mid point on the stem and stern" and I have also read "2" above the water line" it didn't say waterline when the canoe is loaded or empty.
I just asked Jon at Rutabaga about this last month, about putting them in my carbon fiber Prism and he didn't recommend it.
So in addition to Kanoes question has anyone done this to a carbon fiber canoe?


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rlhedlund  
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03/24/2009 04:29PM
 
My Horizon 17 (royalex) came with holes already drilled. They are about 1" below the gunwale, and about 1 1/2" from the front edge of the bow and stern. The holes appear to be 7/16" in diameter.


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butthead  
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03/24/2009 04:56PM
 
I didn't hesitate drilling my composite hulls, there is a lot of rigidity at the stems and the floatation tank. Just sealing issues [no problem with my 20+ year old Spirit2].
A royalex hull will be different, no tank, slippery and softer material.
I'd suggest getting advise directly from 'Wenonah'!

butthead


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knothead180  
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03/24/2009 09:27PM
 
If you are cobbling up your own system, then drilling straight through from one side to the other might work well. But if you are using the actual Tugeye product, then you want to drill each side separately, and as close to perpendicular to the hull as possible. The Tugeye has a flange on the outside, and if the hole is not perpendicular to the hull, especially on a thicker hull like Royalex, then the flange will not seat flat against the hull.
HighPlainsDrifter  
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03/26/2009 10:36PM
 

Been wanting to do that too and those 4, 5/8" holes in the hull (as kanoes points out) are a mental challenge. I have a composite carbon/kev and just the idea scares hell out of me. I think I would practice on my Royalex first


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Cedarboy  
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03/27/2009 10:36PM
 
Come on guys its just a canoe!


Try drilling a hole into a canoe you just put couple hundred hours into for the first time. After my 5th its alot easier.

CB
kanoes  
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03/27/2009 10:39PM
 
we have officially been chastised! haha


bigfoot is blurry...
rlhedlund  
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03/28/2009 07:02AM
 
We have a saying around the machine shop where we spend thousands of $$$ turning a part and are afraid near the end we might make a mistake, "it's just metal."


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