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 Boundary Waters Quetico Forum Listening Point - General Discussion Nalgene and BPA Reply
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| Author | Message Text |
| VoyageurNorth |
04/23/2008 01:19AM (QUOTED)As for a nalgene, I am not going to panic, but I am going to avoid things that will cause more of the chemicals to leech out, like exposing it to high levels of heat and extensive scratching along the inside drinking surfaces. ))) That is why they recommend not using the material for baby bottles, because they are scrubbed inside when cleaning them & early on, many people sterilize them (hot water). I'm not going to worry about them for myself, I don't drink from them except for during canoe trips. Even though I take 3-4 trips a year, that still isn't much. The parts per million etcetera sort of reminds me of the info on using saccharin. |
| Patches The Canoe |
04/22/2008 09:34PM The best advice I ever got was from a fly fish'n buddy "worrying about it will kill you faster...." Top three killers in the US 1. Heart Disease 2. Cancer 3. Stroke Your better off getting the great excercise and relaxation in the great north woods and preventing #1 and #3 than worrying about the #2 crap shoot. |
| kls |
04/22/2008 09:55AM I've been drinking from Nalgene for years and as for brain damage, I don't think there is...there is... I forgot what I was going to say! |
| glitch |
04/21/2008 11:14PM Here's a link to the thread when Adam first posted a link about BPA in Nalgene bottles (about 4 years ago). :) BWCA.COM Thread |
| 612er |
04/21/2008 07:22PM Don't forget to wrap your heads in tin foil to prevent radio waves (and the CIA) from infiltrating your brains! |
| bikehikefish |
04/18/2008 02:54PM Looks like the point is moot, since Nalgene is pulling them from the shelves. Now the question is whether we should all discard our Nalgene bottles, or drive to REI and stock up on them while they are still available. |
| kanoes |
04/18/2008 02:01PM mr. barley recently posted this in the gear forum. nalgene |
| Badgerboy |
04/18/2008 01:56PM Canada takes a stand on BPA. Read the article here. |
| buck |
04/17/2008 09:05PM I don't know how dire the concern is, but I usually proceed with caution. I am going to be a daddy in four weeks and I have done some BPA research and as a result, we are using glass baby bottles. Those trace amounts are more significant in a 9lbs baby. Also, it is my understanding that it mimics estrogen in the body and therefore can disrupt natural estrogen duties in the body. |
| kanoes |
04/17/2008 08:58PM how about that study that links kevlar to traffic tickets? huh? |
| soledad |
04/17/2008 08:38PM Kip, I remember hearing that aluminum leaching could cause Alzheimer's... Aluminum and Alzheimers |
| Kiporby |
04/17/2008 06:36PM Hmmmm, Didn't something come out about teflon coated cookware a while back? What is next: stainless steel, titanium? |
| whiteh20 |
04/17/2008 06:21PM Just wait until Al Gore gets ahold of this one!! Maybe a second Nobel prize? We could get Michael Moore to make a movie!! |
| bikehikefish |
04/17/2008 04:24PM I wouldn't trust my health 100% on information from any government agency. Look no further than the people that are now dieing of cancer from working with radioactive stuff during or after the war. Or if you think that is ancient history and stuff like that doesn't happen anymore, google "lead East St Louis". Scientists using federal grants mixed lead with sludge and spread it on yards in poor neighborhoods in East St. Louis in 2005. I have used clear Nalgene's for about 10 years and am still alive. But that doesn't mean I'm not at risk to contract some disease in the future. Life is a gamble, I think I will try to better my odds by avoiding risky substances, or substances suspected of being risky. Except beer, of course. |
| Merganser |
04/17/2008 02:42PM Yeah, I'm not going to cook in mine anymore :) Seriously, I read a summary from an FDA study that showed the levels you'd likely be exposed to are levels of magnitude smaller than anything that has proven harmful. That's why they haven't been pulled from the shelves. Do you eat fish? There is mercury in them and we KNOW that's toxic and the levels there are NOT orders of magnitude apart. I will keep using my nalgene until there is some actual evidence there is an issue. If SIGG came out with a wide mouth bottle I might try one but to see if it's a better product, not because someone cried wolf. |
| Thunk |
04/17/2008 02:18PM The issue with BPA at the moment is that the recommended safe levels are turning out not to be as safe as they thought. There are quite a bit of politics involved in changing those acceptable levels or deeming something as toxic. It is hard to determine what is credible information. As for a nalgene, I am not going to panic, but I am going to avoid things that will cause more of the chemicals to leech out, like exposing it to high levels of heat and extensive scratching along the inside drinking surfaces. |
| autmwnd |
04/17/2008 01:23PM Before nalgene bottles became so popular,the most common water bottle in outdoor stores was made of a softer plastic with a red plug and a green screw cap. They worked well for me and I hope to see them again. I don't see how trace amounts of numerous foreign substances and chemicals in our bodies can be termed negligible. The article in the Washington Post said that 93% of all people in the US have trace amounts of bpa in the blood. This should be cause for concern especially if you have small children. Tim |
| Minnesotian |
04/17/2008 12:41PM I would be more concerned about a rock from space hitting me then I am about polycarbonate. |
| prettypaddle |
04/17/2008 11:02AM I mean if the estimated exposure is 12.5 parts per TRILLION per day and the reference dose is 50 parts per BILLION per day, you're not being exposed to dangerous levels of BPA in the normal course of things. Be more concerned about getting gasoline on you and being exposed to benzene, toluene, ethylbenzene,..... |
| prettypaddle |
04/17/2008 10:57AM BPA is used to coat the inside of tin cans so if you're concerned about exposure from a nalgene (which is minimal), you should avoid canned food too. |
| irishstone |
04/17/2008 10:22AM Don't forget that this only applies to the Clear Nalgene Bottles. If you but the white ones like I do its all good. Basically any polycarbonate bottle, nalgene or not would have these chemicals. As others have said, it is trace amounts, but sometimes those things add up. I never liked the hard plastic nalgenes from the begining anyways, so I guess I was either lucky or smart. I'm going with lucky because I know better than to say I'm smart. |
| bogwalker |
04/17/2008 09:46AM I've been drinking from Nalgene bottles for years with no apprant effect and I do not intend to change now. Bannock may think differently and the photo he posted of Jim and I from last October may prove him right and provide ample evidence. Use your best judgement. My wife just bought me a SIGG bottle, but it's too nice to bring to the BW. Guess I'll use around home and for dog water on long walks. Don't want my dogs getting sick. |
| tg |
04/17/2008 09:33AM we already know PBR is great for you... |
| kanoes |
04/17/2008 09:05AM wait a couple of years....there will be a new study concluding that PBA's are GREAT for you. :) |
| Soledad |
04/17/2008 09:04AM I'm not going to- if I was worried about brain damage I would have to cut out more damaging things like beer and breathing. "Using these results, the estimated dietary intake of BPA from polycarbonate is less than 0.0000125 milligrams per kilogram body weight per day. This level is more than 4000 times lower than the maximum acceptable or "reference" dose for BPA of 0.05 milligrams per kilogram body weight per day established by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. Stated another way, an average adult consumer would have to ingest more than 600 kilograms (about 1,300 pounds) of food and beverages in contact with polycarbonate every day for an entire lifetime to exceed the level of BPA that the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has set as safe." Arcticle |
| astark |
04/17/2008 08:52AM Should I consider purchasing new Nalgene bottles based on the recent news? First I should check to see if the ones I own are BPA free. Thoughts... |
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