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 Boundary Waters Quetico Forum Listening Point - General Discussion What would you do? Hypothetically of course! Reply
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| Author | Message Text |
| Rapid Runner |
07/21/2009 10:42PM Pack it out. |
| pork eater |
07/21/2009 10:31PM Pack it out, but I know others that would fill it with water and through it the closest sh!tter |
| Les Ismore |
07/21/2009 03:17AM if you bring a big enough bottle, it will never be empty... |
| Pirate |
07/20/2009 03:41PM All right, all right... 1. I happen to prefer Rum and, 2. No it's not my empty bottle! |
| OBX2Kayak |
07/19/2009 04:25PM I strongly suspect that any ranger, if they ever investigated your trash, would heartily agree with letting you carry the bottle out. Now, if you were waving the rum bottle around in the air, talking loudly and slurring your words, there might be a different result. Of course, nobody on this board would do that ... they'd be waving an Ever-clear bottle. |
| bapabear |
07/19/2009 11:19AM My group would pack it out. It's kind of like those who care have to police the area for the rest of the bums and then run the risk of getting in trouble for doing so??? I've not bumped into a ranger while on a trip. Are they really looking to nail you for any little thing, or, if they "caught" you with the bottle would they understand you are only trying to help? I suppose it depends on who you run into but I'd like to hear of other situations with rangers that gave folks grief when they were only trying to be a good citizen. |
| Mongo65 |
07/18/2009 10:16PM I'd pack it out. Ditto on what Savage Voyaguer states about always packing out stuff left by others. |
| Savage Voyageur |
07/17/2009 11:04PM I would pack it out. I always pack out more stuff that I have found left by others. |
| OBX2Kayak |
07/17/2009 10:24PM Jackie -- "quota 3 of 3" simply means that three permits are available for the three groups (up to nine people per group) permitted at the launch site ... hypothetically speaking, of course (don't want to steal the thread). If you happen to find an old rum bottle, read the posts above for info. :-) |
| Loves to Camp |
07/17/2009 10:16PM I need help; if I find the lake and the day and it has the A (for available) does it matter that we have four people when it says "Overnight Quota 3 of 3" I don't want to click to book it and then find out we can only have three people. Thank you for your help, Jackie |
| OBX2Kayak |
07/17/2009 08:54PM We stopped at one camp site last summer and found a large amount of fast food stuff ... McDonalds style Styrofoam containers, etc. Enough to fill half a garbage bag. Thought twice, but we packed it out ... and, then quickly moved on to another camp site. Grouching about it that evening, we thought, "Would you like to be the next group to arrive at that site ... and not know that a large amount of garbage had just been removed?" Rum bottle? I'd pack it out. |
| Camp Cook |
07/17/2009 03:55PM I was once stopped by some fellas in a black helicopter on bottle portage. They made me strip and preceded to... Sorry, wrong message board. |
| ktoivola |
07/17/2009 03:18PM This year a member of our group found and very old #4 Victor jump trap. I presume it was from an old wolf trapper. Soon after..we saw a black helicoper overhead...no lie.. Beware, big brother is watching. |
| Corsair |
07/17/2009 03:13PM I would pack it out if I was near the end of my trip. |
| GeoFisher |
07/17/2009 03:09PM I'd build a BLAST furnace, WHITE MAN's FIRE........and MELT it into a blob of glass.......then take said glass BLOB, and set it next to the fire pit.... Would make a GREAT conversation piece for the next group. Make SURE the Captain Morgan Label isn't damaged though. Later, Geo |
| richard tucker |
07/17/2009 03:07PM There are piles of garbage in Quetico where one would least expect them, way out away from current use areas. I would not leave a fresh bottle lay near a portage or a camp. We only travel Quetico, we have visited with the rangers many times and have never been asked to show are packs. Nor have we had black helicopters fly over, just float planes. |
| moose plums |
07/17/2009 03:05PM Our group found a "relic pile" on Toe Lake, near Lady Boot Bay. It was old bean cans, and beer empties. The beer cans were the pre-pull tab variety, so they were very old. |
| Patches the Canoe |
07/17/2009 02:58PM I'd bag it and carry it out. ...unless I saw a black helicopter |
| Mesaba |
07/17/2009 12:17PM There's no way I'd carry somebody else's *lb rum bottle out with me. I'd put it deep in the woods where nobody (realistically) will ever find it. I'd try to find some stuff to cover it with as well just in case somebody DID go that way. |
| Unas10 |
07/17/2009 10:09AM Ditto on the burial, but make up a fictitious, dramatic farewell letter to loved ones back home and seal it in the bottle before burial.(A little archeological prank.) |
| L.T.sully |
07/17/2009 10:07AM Well of course break it into a million tiny pieces!!! I might leave it where it is if I though it could be an "artifact" Heck I might leave it where it is and start a note jar. |
| marsonite |
07/17/2009 09:36AM If it was deep in the BWCA, I'd either leave it be or else take it far back in the woods and bury it. |
| solotrek |
07/17/2009 09:26AM I agree with hex on the cooler. But, would it be worthwhile to stop at a ranger station and let them know what was found and where? Would they pack it out as they were working on campsites or portage trail? |
| adam |
07/17/2009 09:18AM I would keep one eye out for the drunken pirates which left it. ;) |
| hexnymph |
07/17/2009 09:16AM I would leave it be. Small stuff gets picked up but the big stuff does not go in my pack. Others may disagree and that is fine with me. I once found a cooler full of empty beer cans on Angleworm Lake back in the woods behind camp. Packing that out was not even a consideration. I suspect most others would not pack that out either. You did say “deep in the BW”. Not a janitor, Hex |
| HowardSprague |
07/17/2009 09:13AM thatguyjeff - this look familiar?    
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| thatguyjeff |
07/17/2009 08:58AM What makes an item a relic vs. just trash? We were on Lake 3 in June when the wife was looking for some firewood and found a bunch of trash in the woods. Old beer cans, fuel cans, food cans... She showed me where it was and I started picking some of the stuff up when she reminded me about relics and how even though it seemed careless and out of place, the stuff was old. Moss had grown over it, rusty, the beer cans were the old style with removable pull tabs. It had been there for around 30 years by my guess. So, rum bottle... how long had it been there? When does it become a relic? |
| canoe212 |
07/17/2009 08:57AM Jiimaan, Make sure to fill it up with water so it doesn't float! Nobody wants to see that in the BW. LOL |
| marc bates |
07/17/2009 08:52AM Wouldn't have to think about it, pack it out |
| Jiimaan |
07/17/2009 08:25AM Chuck it to the bottom of lake and let it ripen into a relic! Just kidding...pack it out while cursing the thoughtless person that left it behind. |
| solotrek |
07/17/2009 08:18AM Ditto. |
| airmorse |
07/17/2009 08:16AM Pack it out. |
| overthehill |
07/17/2009 07:30AM No-brainer.....throw in trash bag and haul out. |
| Ho Ho |
07/17/2009 06:51AM It's simple: carry it out. |
| Water Dog30 |
07/17/2009 06:36AM I would pack it out. It's empty and you don't have any other glass or cans in your pack. In nine trips I have only seen one ranger and she just checked permits and took a quick glance at our camp. Has anyone ever had a ranger tear into their packs? Anyway, if everything else is in order, I think he/she would take you at your word. |
| gutmon |
07/17/2009 06:27AM We got stopped once and checked. My wife had a can of diet coke with in the cooler. What saved us was that we also had several dirty, crushed cans that we had picked up along our route. He warned us not to bring in cans in the future, but saw that we were not going to be leaving any trash and did not fine us. If the bottle was dirty, I wouldn't worry about it. If it wasn't, put it in your gear pack or with your other garbage. In my experience, they usually only ask you about what you have with and check only in obvious places like food packs and coolers. Have never been asked to have my other packs examined. |
| rlhedlund |
07/17/2009 06:14AM If you are deep in the BW and come across an EMPTY, large rum bottle (glass) on the ground, what would you do with it? I know many would pack it out. I would be concerned with getting stopped by a ranger and being charged with having a glass bottle in my possession. Paranoia run rampant. What other alternatives can you come up with for safe disposal? |
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